<p>Congrats McatFlow!</p>
<p>Mammal, In my book, even though your boy’s not very early, he’s not very tardy either. I think his timing is about the same as DS’s 3 years ago, except that he likely did not complete all of his secondaries (heck, he did not go to two interviews even though he had received II!)</p>
<p>Son got first Interview Invitation! Ohio State came through within 4 days of submitting the secondary and without the committee packet! First really good news of the cycle amid all the gloom brought in by the delays all around. Here is hoping this is the first of many!</p>
<p>Congratulations to all the kids with interview invitations!</p>
<p>Thanks, mcat2, I am trying not to get crazy over all of this. Our son might be a bit more casual as yours sounds – another secondary request today and he says he might just let it go. Has a PhD acceptance in hand so this is about exploring options, not the one big dream.</p>
<p>Congrats Kal’s son!</p>
<p>Congrats to your son Kal!. Indeed, this is just one of many to come.</p>
<p>Congrats to kal’s son. The first one is the sweetest.</p>
<p>Texaspg, learninginprog and WayOutWestMom,</p>
<p>Thank You.</p>
<p>Son is still working on two of the real beasts of secondaries - Duke and Case. Northwestern and Drexel are yet to send their secondaries. Compounding everything, he is working 12 hours a day in NYC, for their startup.</p>
<p>It sure was nice to come home for some good news yesterday.</p>
<p>Kal - Did they get some money for the startup?</p>
<p>Is he applying to Stanford? One of the students told me it is considered more entrepreneurial as a med school.</p>
<p>Texaspg,</p>
<p>They got some funding along with office space in Manhattan, financial and legal assistance from a healthcare accelerator company in return for a 5% share. They have contracts for trial use of their system from three different firms so far. Cash flow is hard, but they are surviving.</p>
<p>Yes, he is applying to Stanford and has already submitted his secondary.</p>
<p>Kal - Nothing beats THAT experience no matter what he does in life going forward. </p>
<p>You mentioned it before but it slipped my mind, what is their product?</p>
<p>texaspg,</p>
<p>I sent you a PM. It is a valuable experience, no doubt. Preparing business plans, dong the PR, talking to potential investors and clients and doing it all on a shoe-string budget is not easy. They have a couple of real go-getters. One of them convinced Baltimore Sun to write a lengthy article on their system. He spent an entire day last week in NY Times office meeting with the editor-in-chief and all, trying to convince them also into writing a piece. Unfortunately, they didn’t bite :D</p>
<p>And at last the Northwestern secondary arrives! In all seriousness, I applaud them for bucking the trend to front-load the process. The craziness of last couple of months gives me a distinct feeling that something is amiss in this process. I now see the value in the decision of schools like, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Cornell and Duke to do away with the rolling admissions. Kudos to them!</p>
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<p>Perhaps, but Cornell is already handing out IIs and they only have so many of those to give out. If you have a stellar app, it probably makes little difference, but if you are near the central tendency of a target school, being early can make all the difference.</p>
<p>I suspect a school like one of these in a “nice” (read: higher demand due to their locations) coast area may have more qualified applicants than they could either interview or accept. It could become a crapshoot for many except those very rare or truly outstanding ones they are willing to roll the carpet for. The stats are likely what they take it for granted but not what they value much because good numeric metrics, e.g., a close to 4.0 GPA - are “nickel a dozen”, not rare enough for them to care about. It is just the effect of supply and demand because of the sheer numbers of premeds in the coastal area who mostly prefer to “stay put” rather than go inland or south.</p>
<p>DS said he did not know any of his premed friends who was willing to apply to any school in our state, including That single AMCAS school in our state, unless they came from our state originally. I also heard that, unlike in the college application, the best students on the west coast tend to stay in their state for med school. Likely ditto for those in the heartland, or on the other coast.</p>
<p>“entire day last week in NY Times office meeting with the editor-in-chief and all”</p>
<p>To quote My cousin Vinny, “Those Yoots are misguided”. “Everyone” knows the investors read Post or WSJ. :D</p>
<p>Mcat2 - I think the odds are against non-Texans applying to Texas schools and Baylor is one of the hardest at 2% admit rate?</p>
<p>People don’t realize they may have a much better shot at some of the other schools in texas despite the low percentage (I calculate UTSW at 7.4%).</p>
<p>Plumazul, DS applied to 3 of the schools you referred to in his application year, and received II from 2 of them. He completed his secondary to that school very late though (mid or late November for that one? Once he got an acceptance from his in-state, he lost his motivation to work on many other schools – he just had the belief that most med schools out of our region likely will not like appicants from our state, in general - after he had seen how an applicant from California had suffered one year earlier. Maybe because of this perception (correct or not), even though he had gone to II for these OOS schools, he was not nervous about any of these Interviews at all. He was busy taking pictures like a tourist because he said he might not have his chance to be in that part of the country, likely for a long time. Quite a funny attitude. (Mostly because he had had birds in his hand by that time.)</p>
<p>D was finally verified yesterday. 7 secondaries completed. I don’t know why more schools don’t send the secondaries as soon as they have an applicant’s contact information from AMCAS. Some did: Dartmouth, Yale, Washington U, Columbia…It saves time for them and the applicant.</p>
<p>Texaspg, Baylor seems to be somewhat harder to get into. When DS was at the second look at the one at Dallas, they asked those who had also been accepted into Baylor to raise their hands. It appears not many hands were raised.</p>
<p>But this may be because Baylor tends to give out acceptances in a rolling admission way little by little, while UTSW built their class mostly prematch.</p>
<p>For Baylor, there appears to be tons of students from the college campus just across the street.</p>
<p>Baylor vs UTSW is somewhat like H vs Y vs Stanford in the college application cycle. LOL.</p>
<p>mcat2 - that sounds accurate. </p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/161128/data/table1.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/161128/data/table1.pdf</a></p>
<p>I seem to have miscalculated my numbers. </p>
<p>I am looking at this chart and find a major anomaly for OOS between Baylor and UTSW. 3336 applied for what amounts to 46 seats at Baylor (1.38%) while 820 people applied for what amounts to 33 seats (4%). </p>
<p>Theoretically, UTSW offers almost 300% improvement in their chances. :D</p>