Interesting discussion here regarding admission rates. Got back from an admission event today. Nondorf said overall admission rate was 8%, ED/EA was something in the teens and RD was 2%.
Oh, and ED/EA deferred admit rate was 0.5%
@styrax, some EA deferreds went for ED II. Is that .5% accept rate inclusive of them? or just the EA/ED deferred to RD?
Got to be the EA/ED to RD, there is probably no tracking of EA to ED2.
Curious to know just the ED1 and ED2 rates.
2% RD - that’s 15k apps for 300 slots ??? Or is the deferred included in the 28k total less EA/RD offers or about 27k for 540 slots?
As the discussion highlighted, class of 2021 was filled primarily with EA/ED/EDII.
We know that if 13,000 applied EDI/EA (from @Chrchill a few months ago), and that 9% were accepted, meaning something like 13,000 - 1,170 = 11,830 were deferred or rejected.
15,000 applied EDII and RD (new applications) as the total applicant pool was 28,000 and, as stated above, 13,000 applied EDI/EA.
If I take ALL of the non-accepteds from EDI/EA (11,830) and assume they were 100% deferred, and then allocate ALL of the 15,000 over to RD (not any to EDII), that’s an aggressively large RD pool of 26,830. There’s no way it was that high. Yet 2% of that aggressive number is only 537 admits. Does that even make sense?
We know:
8% of total of 28K = 2240
2% of RD 13000ish = 260
14% of EA/ED1/2 14000ish EA/ED1/ED2 = 1980
We guess:
Still unable to determine EA and ED1/2 split, but if approximately (5000 ED1/2 and 9000 EA)
EA = 400 then EA = 5%
ED1/2 = 1580 then ED = 31%
Numbers are educated guesses and base off of other schools raw numbers so take it all with a grain of salt. Just a hack at it maybe someone else can refine.
No idea if the 0.5% includes EA deferred to EDII or not. But it seems to me that since the ED/EA accept rate quoted today was “in the teens” and not the 9% stated earlier for EDI/EA, the “teens” number must include the EDIIs too.
So listen up everyone for next year - apply EDII! LOL.
@JBStillFlying the 537 +/- sounds about right - 1,170 in EA/ED/EDII with a 65-70% yield in RD and the class of 2021 is full.
Well @fbsdreams that means that 1) they rejected very few from ED/EDI and 2) NO ONE new applied to EDII. (I reiterate the message from post #89). Both might well be true.
You’d think that RD would have a lower yield than 65% but maybe if UChicago really had the pickins’ of that pool (despite the lower overall application rate) then they could accept high-yield candidates.
My guess is
ED1 800 admits out of 2,500 apps. Admit rate 32%
EA admits 400 out of 10,500 apps, Admit rate 3.8%
Ed2 admits 400 out of 1,500 apps, Admit rate 27%
RD admits 640 out of 13,500 new apps + 11,000 deferred. Admit rate 2.6%
Odd. I went to the admitted student reception and asked about the numbers. They said that they did not have the complete stats yet, but it was the “most competitive year Chicago has ever seen.” I feel lied to by the admission officers lol.
Hi guys! My son and I just went for a admitted students reception and they showed us numbers – if I remember correctly it was 31-32k? Can’t remember exact figures cause was not paying much attention to them, but seems abt there… thought I would stop by and (attempt!) end this.
However, to be clear I do not think that admission statistics makes much of a difference – Chicago is finding their true (Or natural) number of applicants. Just like MIT and Caltech, Chicago is a niche school that just is not meant for everyone, and nor they project themselves to be (unlike Stanford or Harvard that has something something for everybody).
Regardless of whether it was 28k or 32k, the opportunities, the professors, the connections, and courses (et al) will still remain world-class. It is by no means less than the HYPS, it is simply different.
Now, assuming my numbers are wrong (and 28k) is in fact the correct stats, I would like to give some reasons as to why there may have been a drop (If at all): Chicago’s app is hard. The uncommon questions and the fact that there 3 huge essays automatically precludes those who are just looking for an easy app (such as NU or Harvard that only had small / few essays) from applying. Add the extreme difficulty of the questions and the need to think outside the box, ofc not everyone is going to apply!
I think the more important statistic to look for is the yield which more accurately depicts how Chicago is seen in students’ eyes: is it a top tier fall back option or a dream school? With its meteoric rise and strong investment in STEM, I think Chicago is on track to being the latter within the next 2-3 years.
Needless to say most of this my opinion and everyone is welcome to share his / her own – the only truth that one can say at any given time is (ironically) that time will tell
Take care.
UChicago confirmed stats shared by Dean of Admissions at admitted student reception:
ED1 and EA – 9 %
RD – 2 %
Admitted from deferred pool – 0.5 %
Total admit rate – 8 %
Interesting fact given – 10% of Yale Law School entering class in the fall of 2017 is from Chicago.
Some reports that total app were down by a couple thousand this year, if true this will increase yield especially with ED1 and ED2 .
@FStratford indeed. And see my post below for current stats just given. Yield will be higher. UChicago is on a roll. They just need to fix the medical school. Just returned from Europe. The people who matter revere UChicago and see it right there with Harvard, Stanford and MIT. No one has heard of Brown, Dartmouth and any LAC. They know Penn for Wharton. Also enormous respect for Berkeley, Cal Tech, and Columbia. Yale known for the Law School and Princeton for physics.
What catches my attention in these stats is this: the entering class will be apparently more than half made up of ED1 admits - that is, those for whom the College was always the very first choice among all possible schools. Many of those kids, probably most of them, likely had a good shot at HYPS. Those for whom those schools would have been a stretch could have chosen many another very high quality school. They chose Chicago, notwithstanding that they were choosing a school without the snob appeal of the ivies; without important sports programs; without domination of student life by fraternities/sororities; without the swagger of wealth and privilege; without easy courses and grade inflation; without a preponderance of pre-professional students. They were choosing the core, and they were choosing a place with a reputation for intellectual seriousness, even rebarbativeness. Some of them probably would not have chosen a school with these characteristics were it not for the enhancements to the quality of student life in recent years. That is well and good. However, nobody chose Chicago simply because it has good dorms and a nice Olympic pool.
I do not denigrate those who came in at a later stage, perhaps after a prior rejection from HYPS. The EA and ED2 admittees were also demonstrating a high degree of acceptance of the unique Chicago educational culture. Bravo to them as well.
The RDs are also not to be sniffed at, in light of the additional writing efforts required of them and the long odds they were up against.
All are now U. of C. matriculants, and they will all be taken for the unique ride that constitutes a U. of C. education. They will be ready for it in that they must surely constitute collectively one of the most talented classes that the University has ever admitted, easily standing comparison with the entering classes of HYPS, but without the unique advantages of geography, snob appeal and general recognition in the lay population. And, more importantly, WITH the special commitment to the education that the University of Chicago offers.
Can someone work out the number of people they might accept off the waitlist?
It was noted that this entering class was the strongest ever in UChicago history. Highest Scores and GPA