<p>“Besides, most peoples’ income is determined by life choices, although there are exceptions. A teacher who could have easily become a doctor should be given more FA as should a rich family who is now a middle-class family because they donate money.”</p>
<p>I honestly feel like you are ■■■■■■■■ with this statement. It is not my practice to berate an opponent in a debate, but that is an incredibly uninformed response. You seem quite sheltered to think that it is as easy to climb the social ladder as simply receiving financial aid.</p>
<p>I’m not ■■■■■■■■…I meant that career choices are still choices, but shouldn’t be punished…some people could have had higher paying careers but chose to follow their passions and/or help people, like teachers. I think that they should be rewarded. People who cannot work because of disability-that is not a choice. My boyfriend’s family is in that situation. They should also get good FA. I hardly think that is uninformed…</p>
<p>There is a difference between being born into a family whose father died of cancer and now relies on only their mother, who works three jobs, and a family who donates 15-20% of their income, and asks for more.</p>
<p>And it does seem your practice to berate opponents…you have been doing it during this entire debate. Is it because it is a religious debate? Most people tend to be more hostile when speaking about religion.</p>
<p>All I ask is that the donated money not be considered as a part of our income. We do not ever use it for ourselves. We just want to be considered at the income we actually use for ourselves. You seem to disapprove of donating in general, or have I misunderstood?</p>
<p>Perhaps I should rephrase: Doesn’t that go against many major religions to donate money and then to seek material gains when the act of providing for someone less fortunate should be benefit enough?</p>
<p>You are essentially asking to have your cake and eat it too.</p>
<p>Sorry, have to get a last word in :), you seem to be under the impression that since you don’t use the income, it isn’t a part of your income. Whatever your family EARNS from their labor is what Yale (and SOCIETY IN GENERAL) consider to be family INCOME. CASE CLOSED, NO EXTRA FA MONEY. THE END :P</p>
<p>Just wondering why the OP wants to end the thread. So have you decided? Are you not going to Yale? Is your family going to cut down on donating to charity? What’s the deal? Because there are a lot of inconsistencies in your beliefs that I would like to point out, if you haven’t made a decision yet. </p>
<p>BTW. tithing and donating are two very very different things.</p>
<p>With his circuitous logic, I am surprised that the holier than thou kid made it into Yale in the first place. Bravo, but seriously. Show that you actually thought about this.</p>
<p>Your point is that donated money shouldnt be included in FA since it isn’t disposable income. Well, first of all, it is. No matter what you say, it’s disposable income. </p>
<p>Also I think donations are tax-deductible, so you pay lower taxes than others at your income level. </p>
<p>Let’s say you donate money not because you feel like it, but because your religion tells you to donate or else…you go to hell? I guess so. Should all religious expenses be counted? What about mission trips? What about memberships to religious organizations? </p>
<p>You are arguing an unarguable position, buddy. If I were Yale I would ask: “Why should donating money to exempt?”, “Why can’t you just stop donating money for four years?”
You dont have satisfactory answers to either of those questions. You will not get the aid you need.
Ahem, you WANT. You want the FA so you can continue with your lavish style of living (I consider donations a mental luxury, “ZOMG I sponsor liek 3 cambodian orphans YAY!!1”</p>
<p>You might as well campaign for “want based” instead of need based FA.</p>
<p>I understand this thread is dead but why is it 8 pages long. It could have been solved really quickly.
The solution:</p>
<p>If you can convince your parents to reduce the charity to 10% instead of 30, then good for you, you can go go yale.</p>
<p>If you can’t convince your parents, then you will have to look for another college. </p>
<p>The end. Now, really how hard was that? And its not like any god is going to come down to smite you and your family if you donate 10% instead of 30%.</p>
<p>Hypothetically speaking, if you donate 30% and have 30% for yale, that leaves 40%. Now i am not sure if you are talking about aid for one year or 4. But even if it is 4 years, can your family not live off about 80,000 for a few years (if you are willing to get a loan to lessen your parents’ burden).</p>
<p>You think my parents give money as some sort of spiritual masturbation? That idea is incredibly jaded and cynical. We do it to help people. I am ending this thread because some people are unable to have a respectful debate.</p>
<p>@free2rhyme
We donate 15% not 30 and they won’t reduce it
It IS a big deal bc I worked hard to get into my dream school and now can’t afford it. Even if I take out a thirty grand loan still can’t afford it…so yeah not an easy solution. Unfortunately this thread was not about helping me, giving me advice, or giving me info. It turned into a thread about putting the “holier than thou kid” in her place.</p>