<p>Well, I have a list. </p>
<p>George Mason
Old Dominion
Virginia Commonwealth
Christopher Newport
DePaul
Rochester (hail mary)
Mary Washington
Lafayette
Syracuse</p>
<p>Does anyone have experience with any of these schools that they would like to share (I’d also like to get that down some).</p>
<p>Lafayette is an excellent school. It may be as selective as Rochester. And Laf and Syracuse are certainly pretty expensive, too–James Madison is much cheaper.</p>
<p>Depaul seems an odd fit with the rest, as it is urban. If urban is ok, look at Pitt, which is at least as good a school and probably much cheaper. Or Duquesne, which is similar to DePaul.</p>
<p>Urban is good. Rochester and Syracuse are both very close to big cities (though not directly in them). VCU is right in the heart of downtown Richmond. GMU is just outside of D.C, etc. etc.</p>
<p>I added Duquesne to my list. I would add Pitt, but only 7% of admitted students had a GPA in my range there.</p>
<p>According to the Collegeboard, Laf meets 98% of need and Cuse 95%. Of course, a substantial portion of that could be loans, so I’ll just have to see what the packages look like.</p>
<p>Thank you though!</p>
<p>Similar to Duquesne and DePaul are St. Josephs of Philly–good school with nice campus and tons of school spirit–and Catholic in DC.</p>
<p>James Madison is not urban, but has a very high graduation rate and a reasonable price.</p>
<p>Thanks to KathieP and Yabeyabe…your excellent advice and link to threads about schools with LD, led to our decision to visit Mercyhurst. ds loved it and so did I, I think I cried a little bit when I realized he could see himself going to school there. The tour was great as was our visit with the admissions counselor for our state. We are touring Michigan State tomorrow…he’s on campus for a hockey camp so is getting a great look at a big school as he stays in a dorm with no A/C! This is a pretty campus but feels big, even more so than Ohio State, not sure why. Mercyhurst has rolling admissions so it will be nice to know early one way or the other this fall. I told the counselor this is where I heard about the school!</p>
<p>Thank you yabeyabe, but unfortunately, JMU is out of the picture. I live nearby and am looking to get away.</p>
<p>DDD, that’s great! I looked at the Mercyhurst website–it seems like another excellent small PA college which does not get enough recognition. The hockey schedule seems big time–did you contact the coach?
There is nothing better than when your child and you both like a school. The comparison with MSU should be interesting. If your son comes away convinced a small school is best, you have many, many options to choose from in Ohio and PA.</p>
<p>CIA, I know it is very tempting to leave your backyard for school, but, if JMU is a good fit in other ways, remember that a school that size is a separate world from your home, and if you establish that you will not come home often and no one should visit without advance permission, it can work out fine. I am from Philly and went to Penn and it worked out fine.</p>
<p>No, we were hoping he might be at the scouting camp ds attended at MSU…no reason to contact prior to mid-August, according to most sources. However, as an Ohio High School player, he has little chance of playing D1, and would have to be recruited by a Jr team to play a year or two to be noticed by college coaches. We’re hoping a club team will be his best shot of a competitive opportunity in college. Most schools have an open tryout for both so no reason he couldn’t try to walk on…even just to get the ice time before a club tryout.</p>
<p>I was not impressed with Mich State compared to Ohio State…unless a specific program he wanted, or he couldn’t get in at OSU, not worth paying twice as much. Campus was very big, and I’ve been to OSU many times! and still felt it was much harder to navigate. Very pretty setting. Admissions hour standard but only 2 tour guides showed up for our group of 150…making the tour very unwieldy and long…1/3 of our group left when we visited their new food court and stayed for lunch rather than finish the tour! Stayed at the Kellogg Center Hotel and it was really nice…ds stayed in dorm and liked the food but not the heat.</p>
<p>overall, ds really didn’t say much about it…something along the lines of “it was nice”. Still have to visit the closer schools but will wait until school starts to see them in session (Miami, Xavier, Dayton and OSU).</p>
<p>CIA ODU has an honors college and scholarships to offer for people like you. My son received a $500 honors college scholarship and a $5K technology scholarship to total $5500 per year for four years.</p>
<p>The deadline for the scholarships is Dec 1st.</p>
<p>The Honors dorms are newer- built in 2007/2008. The gym is new and they are updating a lot of the buildings. Yes, one side of the school butts up against a “bad” part of town; but it’s in an urban area.</p>
<p>Anyone else a little bummed by AP scores? Son got a 4 in AP euro but bombed the AP Comp Sci and he was very surprised by that. His friend got a 5 and when they compared notes, son said their solutions were the same. Now we don’t know what to do. He got an A in the class. He’s always had a hard time with the big tests. Anyway, we’re going to alter our college visits and forget about visiting Pitt and instead look at smaller colleges where perhaps there is less emphasis on a few tests and more hands on work.</p>
<p>Has anyone visited Clarkson University in upstate (waaaay upstate) NY?</p>
<p>haven’t visited Clarkson, but went to see SUNY Potsdam…one piece of advice, before deciding to enroll make certain that you visit in the winter. They get LOTS of snow (and this is from an upstate nyer…much more than we do). It is however a beautiful area!</p>
<p>I believe it is a well-regarded school with a traditionally strong hockey team</p>
<p>Son insists that snow/weather is not an issue but I’m not so sure. Having lived in upstate NY (Finger Lakes area) for four long winters 20 years ago, I’ve found that long winters really affect me. Clarkson is 6 hours away so even visiting once is going to take an effort. We could combine it with a visit to Champlain and St. Micheal’s in Vermont though so it would be more effective. UVM (also in Burlington, VT) has been on the list but that seems like another one that should be jettisoned.</p>
<p>kathiep-my d is considering Potsdam (same location as Clarkson) and even though we have lived in upstate NYS our whole lives, I don’t know if I could handle the winters in the North Country!!</p>
<p>kathie - I’m sorry about the AP test - but isn’t this just what I was saying earlier? These kids often do excellently on many things, but that one drop is so hard to put in perspective. A hearty congrats on the 4!</p>
<p>My D is in tech week for a play; at the end of June, she was so hurt by her ACT score that she’s asked that we wait to open the AP scores and not ruin her opening weekend. I’m respecting that, but I’m so curious, of course. She’ll be fine with a couple of 3s, would love a 4, but would (like anyone) be very upset by a 1 or 2. I just wish she didn’t see things like that as some kind of affirmation that she’s inferior. It seems stronger than the good feeling she gets from a high score; she usually acts like that’s just some kind of fluke.</p>
<p>I think with typically high-achieving kids, when they get a low score on something, they’re more likely to see THAT as a fluke - sometimes it is devastating, for sure, but because it’s rare I think they are able to fall back on all of the successes. But a 3.X kid wavers often on a daily basis; because we’ve defined “success” as this all-the-time thing, they never feel like they’re standing on the summit for good (even though the view is just as good, or better, from the spots a little below!). Well, it’s something my D will continue to have to deal with. And college will be an improvement … anything will be an improvement over the “hang you out to dry” experience of public school.</p>
<p>As for how APs can direct college apps: I think you’re wise to consider how AP tests results steer your school choices. But remember that they don’t have any real play in actual applications and admissions, unless you want them to. There are so many factors that go into a low score on an AP - the teacher’s choices in curriculum, the presentation, the general level and experience of the class, the way the test is written in a given year, etc., etc. It’s not an overall judgment on how successful a kid can be in college. Anyway - most schools below tier 1 don’t expect 5s, and give credit for 3s, so they’re not going to scoff at a muffed test or two.</p>
<p>I understand that you’re wondering if this is a predictor for what level of college work he can handle. I think that test was truly a fluke - maybe there is something he needs to learn about how to express his work (even when it’s right), or maybe he got dinged by some details that he can master in further study. Maybe they did actually mis-score it. But the fact that he could get a 4 on any AP test shows that he’s capable. If someone gets all 1s and 2s, then either they’re consistently ill-prepared or truly not up to a national standard of achievement. Your S is not showing that, clearly.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t put too much significance into one, or any, low score. AP classes vary hugely - they’re supposed to “resemble” college classes, but most people seem to feel that at best they are a facsimile of a lesser elective (like the kind of math or science an art major might use to fulfill a requirement, or an extra class in history or English for an engineering type). It’s way beyond apples and oranges, in my opinion - APs come in handy in college to save a little money or make a little time for courses in one’s major(s), but really I think their usefulness is in providing some extra rigor in HS (my D2, who’s taking all the APs she can get, agonizes over not doing so well in them - and, she fears, on the exams - but she wouldn’t survive mentally here without them).</p>
<p>I hope you can shake this off and keep going with your original plans. He isn’t a different candidate than he was before the AP results, and that 4 shows he’s as good as anyone at handling hard material successfully!</p>
<p>The AP test might just have been a fluke. I do not recall whether, given how strange the result sounds, you can ask for a review.</p>
<p>I think you are right that a child who has not experienced a really harsh Winter may be unprepared for a long streak of days filled with little daylight and bitter cold. Does UVM, at $47k OOS, have the largest in/out difference in the US?</p>
<p>“Does UVM, at $47k OOS, have the largest in/out difference in the US?”</p>
<p>I think UMich-Ann Arbor holds that dubious distinction; friends here complaining about the $50,000 price tag…you really have got to be kidding…</p>
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<p>Rodney, why complain? They should have chosen a different school if they did not like the pricetag! Years ago, our GC recommended UVM for our son. I believe it cost in the upper 30s at that time and I remember my eyes bulging as I looked at the pricetag listed in a college guide. We did not investigate further!!! LOL, at that time I was new to looking at the high college sticker prices, so my legs turned to rubber when I saw some of those prices!</p>
<p>Great advice as usual EmmyBet!</p>
<p>Given the troubles of the auto industry, I can see Michigan charging %0, but Vermont at 47?</p>
<p>Kathiep, have you looked at Binghamton and Ithaca?
Of course, in PA, you need OOS good schools for B students about as much as Vermont needs OOS snow.</p>