<p>Freshman Academic Profile
Admissions Selectivity Rating: 92
SAT:
% Submitting Score: 88%
Critical Reading Middle 50%: 510 - 620
Math Middle 50%: 540 - 650
Writing Middle 50%: 520 - 630
ACT:
% Submitting Score: 35%
ACT Middle 50%: 23 - 28
Math Middle 50%: 23 - 29
English Middle 50%: 23 - 28
Writing Middle 50%: 8 - 9
Average High School GPA: 3.6
% with GPA 3.75 of higher: 41.2%
% with GPA 3.50 - 3.74: 20.6%
% with GPA 3.25 - 3.49: 17.9%
% with GPA 3.0 - 3.24: 12.5%
% with GPA 2.5 - 2.99: 7.7%
% with GPA 2.0 - 2.49: 0.1%
Students in Top Tenth of HS Class: 38.5%
Students in Top Quarter of HS Class: 73%
Freshman Student from Public School High Schools: 72%</p>
<p>“U of Toronto is like an IVY. Forget about it. McGill is not as difficult to get into…”</p>
<p>No Ivy has 46,000 students like UToronto. McGill has higher admissions requirements than UToronto.</p>
<p>2010 Times Higher Education World University Rankings</p>
<p>The new THE world rankings are out and available here. New method, new rankings and some pretty big changes in the top 200. However, to look at the top 20 you wouldn’t think there was an awful lot going on here (unless perhaps you were Cambridge). And Harvard is on top (unlike in the recent QS table where they were usurped by Cambridge).</p>
<p>1 Harvard University
2 California Institute of Technology
3 MIT
4 Stanford University
5 Princeton University
=6 University of Cambridge
=6 University of Oxford
8 University of California, Berkeley
9 Imperial College London
10 Yale University
11 University of California, Los Angeles
12 University of Chicago
13 Johns Hopkins University
14 Cornell University
=15 University of Michigan
=15 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich
17 University of Toronto
18 Columbia University
19 University of Pennsylvania
20 Carnegie Mellon University</p>
<p>[New</a> 2010 Times Higher Education World University Rankings Registrarism](<a href=“http://registrarism.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2010/09/16/new-2010-times-higher-education-world-university-rankings/]New”>New 2010 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – Registrarism)</p>
<p>That being said, I based my comment on getting into Toronto for graduate school. I was accepted at UofChicago but not at UofT. It’s possible graduate school is a whole other ball game.</p>
<p>Oh yes, graduate schools are VERY different - rare is a school that has top graduate departments in all fields, and of course the admission into the top 5 or 10 is very hard. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford do not make it into top 5 in many fields and not even to top 10 in some fields. Most importantly, the department you are applying to (faculty) decides who gets admitted; for undergrads it is non-teaching staff in the admissions office. Graduate programs admit individuals, undergraduate admission office admits a class.
Does anyone know (I couldn’t find the info on web sites) whether Canadian universities and colleges have a percentege of foreign students (which includes USA students) that they can admit? Do they have different standards in mind when selecting foreign students (as public universities here have when considering out-of-state students)?</p>
<p>Thanks SLUMOM - very organzied :)</p>
<p>Ponornica - a few more suggestions. Drexel, Widener, Indiana University of PA</p>
<p>Good suggestions cherryhillmom. If you don’t want a school as large as Drexel, Ponornica, you might want to also look at a school like Hofstra (not an LAC, but smaller classes than many other Us. That said, some intro classes, I believe, can run as high as 80-100 students).</p>
<p>While Drexel has the location, I don’t think it fit’s the LAC feel that Ponornica is looking for. IUP is out in the boonies and is the largest of our State U’s, outside of PSU, Pitt. It does seem that it’s hard to find a B student LAC urban college. When I think of the Philadelphia Colleges they just don’t seem to meet most of the criteria. [Campus</a> Visit/ Philadelphia .::. Greater Philadelphia Colleges and Universities make Philly One Big Campus](<a href=“http://onebigcampus.com/college_profiles.htm]Campus”>http://onebigcampus.com/college_profiles.htm) The ones that are traditional LAC’s, non-church affiliated from this link (IMHO) are Ursinus and Arcadia but neither are really in the city and Arcadia is known more for it’s very good study abroad then it’s academic rigor.</p>
<p>Just noticed that Arcadia is not on the link but it’s much closer to the city then Ursinus. <a href=“http://www.arcadia.edu/[/url]”>http://www.arcadia.edu/</a> My son has been accepted there with good merit aid.</p>
<p>Agree, Drexel is not a LAC, which is why I suggested Hofstra too, if one wants a more middle sized school with access to a city.</p>
<p>I also agree that finding a B student LAC in an urban area is not easy, esp. when it one does not want the religious affiliation.</p>
<p>Kathiep, congratulations on your son’s Arcadia acceptance. I have read very good things about this school over the years.</p>
<p>Another thought, how about Drew University? It is not in NYC. It is in NJ but there is a train that could get one into NYC. It is a solid school for a B student and is an LAC. Also, one might visit Fairleigh Dickinson while visiting Drew because they are minutes away from each other. I am not sure if Drew has religious ties. It does have some theological school associated with it. I do think that students of all faiths attend. It seems like a very diverse school to me.</p>
<p>Drew is associated with the Methodist Church. I don’t think it pushes religion in your face like Catholic schools, as I have a Jewish friend starting her grad work on the way to become a cantor. </p>
<p>How about Loyola Maryland? There are also many good schools in the Chicago area if you want him to go that far away.</p>
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<p>This is what I thought. Your friend, she is doing grad work to become a cantor at Drew?</p>
<p>I live near Drew and know 2 Jewish recent graduates, neither of whom ever mentioned the Methodist affiliation. I have been on campus for their excelent resident professional theater many times and never knew it was Methodist affiliated.</p>
<p>I also live near Drew and I have never heard of any religious affiliation there…</p>
<p>My H worked at Drew and it definitely is affiliated with the Methodist church, although on a quick perusal of the website, they don’t seem to mention it much now.</p>
<p>I think a lot of Colleges had a historical church connection but no longer are really affiliated with the churches. Muhlenberg, for instance, was actually founded as a seminary [Muhlenberg</a> College - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhlenberg_College]Muhlenberg”>Muhlenberg College - Wikipedia) but no longer has ties with the Lutheran Church and is often cited on this board as a school with a large Jewish student population and an active Hillel. My oldest son’s alma mater, Roanoke College is still associated with the Lutheran church but no religious classes are mandated and you wouldn’t know of any church affiliation except for the benediction when kids start at the college and then the baccalaureate when they graduate.</p>
<p>Muhlenberg is still affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, but it’s a pretty loose affiliation, and students of all faiths or no faith seem happy there. They also have a very nice discussion of financial aid on their web site, and it is definitely a school that 3.0-3.3 students may want to consider.</p>
<p>[Muhlenberg</a> College| The real deal on financial aid](<a href=“http://www.muhlenberg.edu/main/admissions/realdeal.html]Muhlenberg”>http://www.muhlenberg.edu/main/admissions/realdeal.html)</p>
<p>I also agree that Roanoke College is a nice school for a 3.0-3.3 student, with good opportunities for merit-based and need-based aid.</p>
<p>Roanoke would be another good choice for a B student wanting to be near a city. It is close to the city of Roanoke, but it is located minutes away in Salem, Va. Muhelenberg would also be a school to consider.</p>
<p>Thank you all. Neither my son nor I mind the distance from MA where we live, nor does he insist on being IN a city. But for health reasons he must be NEAR a city, about 1 hour drive at most. It is desirable that the college/university is located somewhere urban or at least semi-urban but that is not absolutely essential.
Does anyone have information about Canadian colleges and universities?</p>
<p>U of Miami, American.</p>
<p>A friend’s son went to McGill and loved it–it’s in Montreal of course. The friend (prof at an ivy) thought it was a great education for a great price. That’s all I know, though.</p>
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I vote for DePaul. A small uni rather than an LAC but very nice and a match for good B students.</p>