<p>Congrats, Klpawl & RSC for your kids’ acceptances. Great news! </p>
<p>I never forgot how I had to explain “Score Choice” to one of my kids’ GC! LOL…
4 children = 4 different guidance counselors, they all seem to come & go! </p>
<p>EJ, good luck in your college search, let us know where you end up.</p>
<p>Anybody have any new acceptances/deferrals to report? Thought I would “BUMP.”</p>
<p>Not sure what I have reported to date but S has been accepted to: JMU, Pitt, Xavier, Marquette, Loyola Chicago, Seattle. He was deferred by: Babson and Bentley. Both deferrals want mid year grades. Should hear from Bryant soon. Then we wait til March to hear from 5 more schools. S currently has a 3.1 with a 2180 SAT.</p>
<p>and congrats to all those with acceptances. fingers crossed for those still waiting.</p>
<p>D has a couple of match EA schools that will come in the next couple of weeks - I’ll let you know how she does.</p>
<p>Ds taking exams right now so hoping the grades stay high enough for the two deferrals in hand and the maybe 3 to come…should hear from Dayton and Miami U in next couple weeks, Ohio State has been sitting on his app since mid October so no news is good news there.</p>
<p>D was deferred EA from Lawrence. She says she’s OK, glad she wasn’t rejected. She’s heading for her best semester ever, so we’ll see what they think after that. She doesn’t want to send them “more stuff.” </p>
<p>She has had a very noticeable upward trend and nailed a high ACT this fall, so she’s on the high end of this thread. Lawrence may now be a much higher match/low reach for the 3.X student (it is test-optional).</p>
<p>I also had to explain to my mother today that a humanities/artsy girl these days is not such a hot commodity for colleges. I’m wondering if my D will have more luck at full-spectrum universities (where they have business/tech/etc. majors) than at LACs.</p>
<p>EmmyBet… I am REALLY surprised by that deferral!! I’m wondering what they are looking for?? I would have thought your D would have been a slam-dunk there. This whole college admissions thing has me so stressed out and I still have a year and half to go.:-((( It is so hard to figure out what is a match and safety with these 3.xx GPA’s but high test scorers. My DS has quite a few strong safety’s that he LOVES but I guess you never know. WOW!! Is all I have to say.</p>
<p>Thank you, 5boys. I’ve been keeping cool about this because personally my D is OK with it, because although she really likes the school a lot, it’s a bit small for her and too close to home. Also her first choices mostly are auditioned theatre programs.</p>
<p>But I agree that there seems to be a major jump in selectivity going on there. The letter said that they’ve had a marked increase in applicants and are trying not to have their accepted numbers escalate. I imagine many deferral letters say this, but I do think it’s only been a matter of time before Lawrence became more selective, closer to its eastern counterparts (and its midwestern ones like Macalester, Grinnell, Carleton, etc.).</p>
<p>But you do never know. D has a couple of higher “matches” and two real reaches, and it’s tempting to feel like she now has no chance at them, since Lawrence didn’t “slam-dunk” her. But there may be other factors, and I’ll just try to believe in the unpredictability of this process. As long as she fits the mid-upper half of a school’s accepted students, she has as good a chance as anyone.</p>
<p>And while she is an artsy intellectual girl (yawn) she is from what would be a “new” geographical designation for all of these other schools. Lawrence has definitely heard of our town; last year I know the one girl (I think only one) who applied and was accepted had a 4.0. She also was sciencey and athletic.</p>
<p>They also told us in their info session that they do take out “non-academic” classes like music from the GPA, which is what puts my D in this thread’s group. This semester might creep her past a 3.4 academically (I think UW; weighting confuses me to no end) and might help. They did get her 1st quarter grades and might just be wanting to see if she keeps them up (which she did).</p>
<p>BUT … who knows???</p>
<p>I’m generally a pragmatic type and haven’t counted any chickens still in eggs … the only schools I’ve mildly called safeties have been state schools that stand by their statistical thresholds, and even though she did get into one so far I still can’t quite use the “S” word (although mostly that’s out of respect, because it’s a great school). If the other one rejects her, it would be a shock - her GPA is about .4 above their usual and her ACT is more than 5 points higher. But I’ll believe it when I see it - and so will she.</p>
<p>Her last “safety” is an LAC a good chunk less selective than Lawrence; we’ll hear their EA decision around 2/1. I’ll keep you posted.</p>
<p>Checking in. My son has been accepted at several schools and some with merit aid. He’s been going back and forth about a potential major in Network Security vs. IS or IST and if a college has to have Network Security. He is reluctant to re-visit schools and take time out of his school schedule, because of Robotics (this is the busiest time of year for that) and the days he will miss with tournaments and also the rigor of his classes. I don’t quite know how to push, since I understand where he is coming from, but it seems important. </p>
<p>He was also deferred from two Colleges - Elon and WPI. His HS will be sending out end of semester grades and I’m adding in his transcript from a class he took at local PSU campus, and got an A!</p>
<p>emmybet: my daughter also received a surprising deferral (yes, after she sent in a withdrawal letter that was obviously not processed in time)…her stats were easily above their 50%, geographically distant from here (so demographics seemed ok)…she interviewed, etc…</p>
<p>obviously doesn’t matter, but surprising nevertheless to be deferred from what was considered a quasi-safety…</p>
<p>Hi Emmybet,</p>
<p>Since I see alot of my DD in yours and my DD also appled to Lawrence (RD)…Plus. my DD has lower test scores, it doesn’t look good. Oh well, that is why I am so happy she had 4 EA schools and got into all of them. She now feels proud of herself and, if a rejection comes, from Lawrence or someplace else she is coming from a stronger place. I will say that the fact that you are in state sometimes makes your kid a less desirable candidate for schools like Lawrence that want to build their OOS rep. I see it here all the time with Colorado College rejecting some really strong local kids. I know colleges don’t care, but I have personally seen so much growth in my own DD this year and that fact is making me even prouder of her than college decisions can do. There are so many schols our kids can be happy at and thrive!</p>
<p>Thanks, rodney and poppy. I am definitely willing to chalk this all up to chance and factors none of us know (particularly that Lawrence is probably moving out of the B+ range these days). It’s easy to do because as you both say, these girls have plenty of other wonderful options that they’re happy with.</p>
<p>Please no one think that we’re broken-hearted over here - it’s just a lot of food for thought, and I always appreciated hearing what other people were thinking when they went through this, so I’ll remark on a few things: </p>
<p>I’m seeing a lot of people commenting that schools are pushing their decisions back, especially to see 1st semester grades, etc. It’s not over - just a deferral.</p>
<p>D has gotten a great acceptance at Minn, and also was accepted academically at SUNY New Paltz (she has her acting audition for their Theatre BA next month). I’m still confident with her very careful list that she will have 4-5 more acceptances before this process is done.</p>
<p>I’ve wondered over the past few years reading CC if “match” is the hardest distinction to make - “reach” is usually obvious (maybe it’s practically every school??), and safety can in many situations actually be guaranteed (if D had gone with more of our instate options, she would have had lots of safeties).</p>
<p>This has been a huge theme on the 3.X thread: what is a match? For the 4.0 kid, most nice LACs are a solid bet. But when a school says that its typical accepted student has a 3.2 or a 3.6, those of us with kids whose GPAs are in that range start to wonder. Is that really true? Is it really 4.0s with some 3.0 legacies/athletes/etc.? Are they relying on some kind of weighting system we don’t understand?</p>
<p>Finding a match for a 3.X is hard because a lot of really great schools SOUND like matches but really probably aren’t such a sure bet. I really can’t say anything helpful about this because my D1 was a 4.0/31 ACT, and my D2, while a 3.6 overall/3.3 academic/31 ACT did not craft a typical list. Statistically, she was in at Minn, but I didn’t relax until she got the letter. Lawrence we certainly didn’t assume, but of the rest of her non-auditioned BA programs, it was supposed to be the “match.” The rest of those schools are a couple of higher matches (50%ile GPA/25th%ile ACT) a lower reach and a real reach. She does have an LAC where she is in the top 25%ile for everything, so their answer will tell us a lot.</p>
<p>I know she wrote a nice essay; I’m sure her recommendations were very nice. She has a few awards, no truly special distinctions, but this group isn’t all about that. She’s got plenty of ECs, some community service, a nice enough package. </p>
<p>Her auditioned schools will weigh the audition more than anything in the long run (even if she gets in academically), so her grades aren’t really the issue there. There are no safeties in auditioned programs, but in that group she also split about 50-50 with some that are extremely selective and others with a higher acceptance rate. </p>
<p>As rodney says, anything can happen, and we won’t let this deferral somehow become a rubric for where she stands overall. This is why the most crucial thing to do is develop a good list. Her list is still good, and she’ll have good results.</p>
<p>poppy, you couldn’t have said it better: I am so very proud of my D in all she is doing, how she has grown, and the person she has become, and what colleges decide can’t change that one tiny bit. What’s more, I think she feels the same way.</p>
<p>Slap! First rejection from Univ of Dayton. I really am shocked as thought, of all the schools he applied to, absolute safety. Now I wonder why not a deferral? Is it worth sending a letter with 1st semester grades and new recommendation? Son mad at first, then said he didn’t want to go there anyway but think reaction to the bad news…and that he has two other acceptances.</p>
<p>ddd - so sorry to hear it! Sounds like your S is good at putting things in perspective.</p>
<p>Sadly I don’t think there’s a thing anyone can do with a rejection. That’s it - the school pretty much gets to close the door. Maybe there’s an outlier story here or there, but I do think we’re all done when we get “those” letters. I’m so sorry.</p>
<p>All 3 of these kids with “bad” news also have plenty of “good” news already, so let’s be happy. Maybe eventually we’ll get some insight on these match/safeties that didn’t behave as expected … or not. I’m just glad all of our kids had good lists and will come out well in the end. As is so wisely said here on CC, you can only go to one school when all is said and done!</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder with all the rush & hoopla over EA, that they defer many to RD, because they want to look at everybody together in one bunch? I thought last year there was an article in the NYT about schools not having enough RDs.</p>
<p>LOVE this thread, describes my DS perfectly. He appled ED to Marist for Computer Science with a 3.1 but relatively high SATs (680 math) and was accepted! This is after practically EVERYONE told me it was a long shot. Lower grades and higher test scores show he doesn’t care, blah blah blah…
We had really done our homework - visited the campus 3 times, meeting with a different admissions counselor each time. He followed up with emails to them, staying in contact, making it plain this REALLY was his first choice.<br>
His courses are all honors, with 2 APs this year, and his teachers love him. BUT he doesn’t do his assignments, isn’t at all competitive, and comes close to failing quite often - just always been his personality.</p>
<p>Picktails, so glad you posted. Your S sounds very much like my D! Didn’t know there were others out there w/a charming & smart kid who just didn’t do assignments & wasn’t very competitive! D has a 2.8GPA/3.5QPA, and has had mixed results w/her college search. Accepted w/merit $$ at North Dakota State, Iowa State, York U of PA, Ohio U, Salisbury & U Dayton, Deferred at U of Oregon & Towson, Denied @ Fordham, waiting to hear from Appalachian State. Currently UDayton and Ohio are her top picks. It’ll come down to the final $$ award. Keeping fingers crossed!</p>
<p>Okay, turn other cheek, smack! Ohio State rejected for main campus, accepted at Newark, which does not surprise me except that I don’t know if he has a chance still to get to main campus next year. Will have to wait for letter. I think it would be a nice way for him to be close to campus, half hour away, small environment, motivation to succeed to move on to main campus. Still puzzling over Dayton, although grades marginal…81% gpa from selective super competitive high school…30 ACT gets a rejection, not deferral?</p>
<p>picktails, Good for your son! My son has also applied to Marist, mostly for the IBM factor. He’s planning on an IS or IST major. We had a semi-disappointing visit because there was absolutely no one to talk to in the CS/IS department. We did a Saturday visit and we’ve had good luck before at other colleges finding someone in the building, but no one at all in that section at Marist. What was a little off-putting was that none of the classes or labs had windows that you could look in and all of the doors were locked. I understand though that they are building a new place for CS and IST. Do you know much about that?</p>
<p>SuperMom, Good luck on the App State admissions and congrats on the rest! I love that area of North Carolina! Your daughter has colleges all over the place! What made you pick colleges from North Dakota to Maryland?</p>
<p>Wow, that is strange ddd. You might want to ask guidance if there is a not-so-great reference letter going on from one of the teachers. Or double check on the grades.</p>