3.0 to 3.3 (GPA) Parents Thread (2012 HS Graduation)

<p>Do you know why they do that? And do you mean that the student applies for the fall and gets accepted to the spring. Or that students can apply for the spring</p>

<p>Sent from my SPH-D700 using CC</p>

<p>Lots of the schools that do that do it because they have more space available in Spring because of students (not necessarily freshman) going abroad or-- at a big school like Maryland-- maybe because of midyear graduates. High school seniors apply for fall acceptance and, instead of the regular admit/ waitlist/ deny, they are admitted for the Spring. Some schools actually send the kids abroad as a cohort. I know Skidmore does it or used to do it-- sending them to London. With the lacs that do it, it’s often a matter of limited dorm space. Obviously, some kids may like it (especially if they have the option of traveling abroad) but it can make kids feel slighted too.</p>

<p>It’s not unusual for some of the state u’s in our state to offer spring admission. I know of several kids who’ve gotten that offer and know at least two who have accepted it. In their cases, both attended the local CC for fall semester and then went to the state u. in the spring.</p>

<p>My son applied to a large # of schools (14!) since we weren’t sure any college was looking for a kid who’s gpa was <3.0 Well, apparently, there are some schools that really mean it when they say they look at the applications holistically. And, thus, he has received a bunch of acceptances. </p>

<p>Momof3boys et al,</p>

<p>I could have kissed you when I read this! You have given me HOPE! I am a lurker from the 2013 version of this 3-3.3 thread, only because I don’t think there is a thread for <3.0. </p>

<p>I’ve been so worried about my son, who sounds just like all of yours. He’s not ADD or anything, he’d just rather play or listen to music than study for tests or revise his papers, I always hear, “Oh, Mom, it’s good enough!” </p>

<p>I’m happy that there is a chance that he’ll go to a good school that will educate and nurture him. I don’t even care about merit money-I just want him to get in someplace that he’ll like. I like the quote from the school that accepts, rather than rejects applicants. I’m adding it to my son’s list! I’ve jotted the names of many other schools I read about on this thread as well.</p>

<p>I hope by now your children have many acceptances and good choices. I’ll be in your shoes next year at this time! Wish us luck!</p>

<p>Good luck NPR mom - I for one don’t have any plans to leave CC so stay in touch as you go.</p>

<p>NPR,</p>

<p>You’re welcome. So glad I could lift your spirits about this whole crazy college process. My DS has now heard from all 14 schools, and was accepted at 12, WL at 2. Incredible, really. He did show improvement in his grades this year, which I think was very important. A couple schools even asked to see his latest grades prior to making their decision.</p>

<p>Our strategy was to apply to smaller schools that have higher acceptance rates. (No super-selective schools here – but very respectable colleges, nonetheless.) Also, a few had a lower ratio of males, which may have also worked in his favor.</p>

<p>I have spent many hours on CC, combing through old threads, searching for schools, and PM-ing posters with my questions. And, thankfully, it was all worth it.</p>

<p>You are actually way ahead of where I started. I didn’t even begin looking until last fall. There are so many helpful people here who are willing to give their time to help others (like me) find their way through this challenging process.</p>

<p>NPRmom, my kid has something like a 2.7 GPA, no honors classes, one AP, almost nothing in the way of ECs. He was accepted by ten colleges. Outright rejected by only one (SUNY Oneonta, where he never fully submitted the applicated) and waitlisted by Ithaca. So don’t despair! I really didn’t know if he would get in anywhere.</p>

<p>I agree with the strategy of applying to smaller schools with higher acceptance rates and a lower ratio of males.</p>

<p>NPR: S3 will graduate with a 3.19 GPA (I can’t even say 3.2 - that would be too much to hope). He has the ‘dilemma’ now of choosing between two top 50 LAC’s.
Glean all the advice that you can from CC and just remember that MOST of the kids here are way above average, so don’t despair.</p>

<p>WOW!
You guys are the best! I feel so encouraged! I love this thread and its posters!!
Thanks!!!
I’ll keep you all posted-even though we are 2013.</p>

<p>Oh, I forgot: simpkin
I WENT to Pace, NYC. It’s totally a commuter school and there IS NO campus and very little feeing of community, etc. I think it’s a good choice for working professionals trying to obtain missing credits or a masters in business or accounting. I actually enjoyed my liberal arts studies there, but I was an adult, married with a child, making up credits to earn a degree-not a frosh leaving home for the first time. Good that you and your son stayed home and skipped the tour. But, I guess you know that…</p>

<p>Thanks NPR! One of my very good friends went there (in the late 80s) and she said the same thing – she loved being in the city but there was little sense of community at Pace.</p>

<p>Good morning. :slight_smile: I PM’d a couple of you asking for this information, and your answers are so helpful that I thought I’d just post my question here for others to see & hopefully answer. </p>

<p>Now that decision time has arrived, many of us just starting this process could really benefit from your expertise. Specifically related to this thread…
What GPA did your S or D end their junior year? Senior year?
What was their SAT or ACT score (please specify if it’s total or just CR & Math)?
What list of schools did they end up applying to?
Where were they accepted/rejected/WL?
Any aid offered?</p>

<p>I know much of this info is scattered here already but I’m trying to really help my very average (academically speaking) S narrow down his list. I know this thread is for parents of B students, but there’s quite a bit of difference if someone was accepted with a 3.0 and a 2000/2400SAT or a 3.0 and a 1300/2400 SAT. Just trying to make it easier & hear some results all in one place. :slight_smile: I hope you guys would be willing to post this info. since you’ve all be so incredibly helpful thus far. Thank you! :)</p>

<p>Thanks giat13 - I am so glad you requested this! Last week I had the thought of combing back over the thread and compiling a list of stats and acceptances, then came to my senses. I agree - there’s a huge difference between a B with a stellar SAT and a B with an average SAT. Help us out 2012r’s!</p>

<p>Okay, my kid had approximately a 2.7 GPA at the end of junior year, not much upward trend, midyear senior grades were consistent with previous results. SAT 730/580/600. No honors classes. Only EC was sporadic part-time employment. Wrote an amusing essay. Teacher recommendations were probably very good. Did not apply for financial aid. Major was listed as undecided liberal arts.</p>

<p>Accepted: Lycoming, McDaniel, Albright, Hartwick, Pace, Roger Williams, Hofstra, SUNY Plattsburgh, SUNY Oswego, Drexel, University of Kansas.</p>

<p>Rejected: SUNY Oneonta</p>

<p>Wait-listed: Ithaca (did not stay on wait list). Also applied to UVM early action, was deferred pending mid-year grades, withdrew application.</p>

<p>Every listed college except the SUNYs, KU, and McDaniel offered some amount of merit money – the LACs were the most generous; Pace was also fairly generous.</p>

<p>Yes I had him apply to too many schools. Since almost all of these colleges offered EA or rolling admissions, he could have waited for initial results before submitting more applications. However, most of the applications were free, and none required supplemental essays.</p>

<p>Anyone who’s been reading this thread for a while knows that I tried very hard to steer him toward Colleges That Change Lives kind of schools. We visited half-a-dozen LACs. When we started this process, he had no idea what he wanted and was happy to let me do all the research and plan the visits. I guess the good thing about visiting so many LACs was that it became very clear to him that he wanted a bigger college. So then I tried to find colleges in the 5000-8000 student range. Meanwhile I had him put in applications to LACs hoping that he would keep an open mind. Pace was the local backup to Hofstra. KU was sort of an insurance policy – he had an automatic admit with his SAT scores (even with his GPA). Drexel was his idea. So, that’s how he ended up applying to so many colleges.</p>

<p>Thank you for posting Simpkin! So helpful! Did your S apply EA or RD to these schools? Sadly, so far my S has quite a bit lower SAT than yours…so I doubt his acceptances, if any, will be as plentiful.
Mamaduck…hopefully there will be lots of replies, bc I’ve been going crazy backtracking posts as well.
Anyone out there whose child had a mediocre at best SAT along with a B average…pleasssee post the above info. ;)</p>

<p>He applied EA when it was available. I don’t know if that helped, but I guess it didn’t hurt.</p>

<p>S had a 2.96 (UW - school does not weight) going into senior year and it hasn’t changed for the better. It’s probably gone down slightly. Always 2 pre-APs frosh/soph and always 2 real APs junior/senior (so total 4 and 4, only AP exam he took was junior English and he got a 3, he will take 2 more in May). A’s in music, and he is a very good bass guitar and tuba player, though not trained outside of school, he is a “natural”.</p>

<p>ACT 28, SAT 1140, with writing 1720. As the ACT was better than the SAT he submitted only that when given a choice. Top 70% of his class in a very well regarded public school where 95% of kids go on to college.</p>

<p>Accepted: Ohio State/local campus, Adrian, Capital (music conservatory), DePauw, Duquesne (accepted academically but not to music school so withdrew app), Wittenberg.</p>

<p>All schools gave varying amounts of academic merit aid (and music scholarship in the case of Capital) and financial aid packages varied from met full need (Adrian) to $15K gap (Witt). Adrian was the most generous overall, Wittenberg was the most generous with just merit.</p>

<p>Waitlisted: Denison, Wooster</p>

<p>Don’t know yet: Berea - if he is accepted, and it’s very competitive, it will be free. He was deferred from EA already.</p>

<p>This is great stuff! Thank you both for posting! Anyone/everyone else? :)</p>

<p>I might suggest you add significant ECs/hooks to your request list. URM, recruited athlete, musician or whatever. For my S being a musician made a big difference.</p>

<p>What GPA did your S or D end their junior year? Senior year?
What was their SAT or ACT score (please specify if it’s total or just CR & Math)?
What list of schools did they end up applying to?
Where were they accepted/rejected/WL?
Any aid offered?</p>

<p>My son’s school figures GPA in an odd way. He had an 87/100 average at end of junior year and they called it a 3.5; I think it would be closer to a 3.2 or 3.3. He has had mostly Bs with an occasional A or C. SAT was 1150/1600. He took a few honors classes, but no AP. He had a nice essay and probably good recommendations. He is at a Catholic high school. ECs were sports, but not recruited. We do not apply for financial aid.</p>

<p>Acceptances: Ohio University with a little money, West Virginia with a little money, East Carolina, UM Baltimore County, branch campuses for both Pitt and Penn State.
Wait list: Virginia Tech and James Madison.
Rejected:U. Of Delaware.</p>