3.3-3.6GPA, and applying to Ivies.

<p>I have often seen threads about parents whose kids applied to top schools with these tyype of GPa, so what about the IVies.?</p>

<p>twenty-eight views and no comments, ouch that hurts.</p>

<p>Not a parent, but my brother tried (waitlisted at Princeton), and I will be trying this year.</p>

<p>what were his stats?</p>

<p>It’s not really clear what you are asking. Are you asking if you can get in with that GPA? As with everything, it depends on the rest of your application. But I think it would be tough.</p>

<p>DS will apply to Cornell with a gpa of 3.6, SAT 2210, ACT 34. Not expecting to get accepted, but wants to apply anyways.</p>

<p>For the most part, unless the student is coming from a very rigorous high school, that kind of GPA is not going to be good enough for Ivy admission – the exception might be someone with a very strong athletic hook or some other talent that overrides the weak GPA. But basically, most accepted students are at or near the top of their high school class. </p>

<p>If it happens to be the sort of high school where no one gets straight A’s, that might be a different story.</p>

<p>Also, it could depend on the grade pattern – if there was a kid who had a very strong rising trend and a reasonably good story to tell, then the school might look at him – for example, a kid who did poorly his freshman or sophomore year, perhaps because of personal life stressors – and then pulled out whatever problems he had and had top grades junior and senior year.</p>

<p>How well can an applicant in this GPA range expect to do at an Ivy-level school if accepted? The overwhelming majority of fellow students will have been at the top of their hs classes, with top 1-2 percentile SATs/ACTs. Unless the GPA is the result of calmom’s scenario above, with an extremely strong performance junior and senior year, the applicant is likely to struggle academically at an Ivy.</p>

<p>S2 considered, but ultimately did not apply, to Ivies. 2290 SAT, 3.56 UW, 4.24 W, full IB diploma plus 11 APs from one of the top selective admit HS programs in the country. Was told by an Ivy coach (helmet sport) he’d be very competitive for admission but ultimately decided he had cold feet about playing at the college level and chose not to pursue that option.</p>

<p>He had good success with other highly selective schools (Chicago, Tufts) that he preferred to the Ivies he contemplated (Dart and Cornell). We know the quality of his essays really demonstrated the intensity of his program.</p>

<p>There’s a paucity of responses because most of the parents here are savvy enough to realize that unless their kid were a recruited athlete or wealthy donors’ offspring, their student’s chances would be close to 0 of being accepted to an Ivy with such stats. Contrary to myths, URMs also aren’t getting in with those stats.</p>

<p>If you wade through this thread you will see a number of kids who applied to Ivies. Some got in. Most didn’t.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/767118-under-3-6-gpa-applying-top-20-parents-thread.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/767118-under-3-6-gpa-applying-top-20-parents-thread.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^^^Yup. The <3.6 and Top Schools thread has lots of success stories, though I don’t recall Ivy admits. Students got into some excellent schools, some took generous merit packages, and ultimately the focus was more on what would be a good fit for these kids. </p>

<p>I’ll also note that a lot of the <3.6 kids on that thread were taking VERY tough courseloads and had excellent standardized test scores. They also had something significant to offer outside the classroom (which in many cases, I suspect, contributed to the dip in grades – but it makes them interesting PEOPLE).</p>

<p>I can’t count how many kids we know with 3.9+/2300+ from insanely competitive programs, awards out the wazoo, etc. who did not get into Ivies (heck, and didn’t get into other top schools, either). There was no way to predict how the superstars would shake out. We saw some shocking decisions this year.</p>

<p>We all were delighted with S2’s results. He was accepted at precisely the schools that interested him most. He is superbly prepared to pursue his goals.</p>

<p>All 3.6 kids are alike. Not all 4.0+ kids are successful at college although the Ivies tend to not “like” kids to fail.</p>

<p>we saw the same as CountingDown. If you’re not a recruited athlete or have something else they want, there’s NO way that GPA will get in.</p>

<p>3.3 to 3.6 is a very large range in this situation as you are over the edge. If have a 3.6, go to a tough school, have a lot of other strong points (recommendations, EC’s test scores etc.) you stand a better chance than someone with 3.5 or 3.4 or 3.3. Not that 3.6’s have a good chance but it is easier to explain away lower grades with a 3.6 as compared to a 3.3.</p>

<p>Also chancing is something by strangers may not give you the best answers when the schools are very competitive and you have given only one point of reference: The GPA.</p>

<p>This is by far not a chance thread…</p>

<p>sigh. no one with a gpa in that range applying…???</p>

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<p>I am not sure what the question is. </p>

<p>If the question is “Can a student in general get into Ivy’s if they have a GPA in 3.3 to 3.6 range?”, then the answer is possibly, but the students needs to have a major hook or some extraordinary achievement. For most students the answer would be a resounding “No”, and the exceptions would be athletes, major donors, etc. </p>

<p>If the question is “Do I stand a chance in the Ivy’s if my GPA is this range?”, that is a chance question and more details would be needed.</p>

<p>If the questions is “What happened to those students in CC who had GPA’s in 3.3 to 3.6 and applied to Ivy’s i.e. did they get in or not?” is a different question and if you frame it that way, you may get answers from some of the posters here. .</p>

<p>If the question is “Do students with GPA’s 3.3 to 3.6 apply to the Ivy’s?”, the answer is yes, some students do.</p>

<p>If the question is “Are any students with GPA’s 3.3 to 3.6 on CC going to be applying to the Ivy’s?”, and you frame it that way, you may get answers from some of the posters here. If that is your question, there is also an active forum for students in that range, where you could ask the question.</p>

<p>OP – why are you asking this question? Are you wondering if you should bother applying to Ivies with a 3.3-3.6 gpa?</p>

<p>As others have said, the only students likely to get in with a GPA like this, are either coming from schools where this GPA still makes them a top student, or had a terrible freshman year, or have accomplishments so fantastic that the GPA can be ignored. </p>

<p>My son was a double legacy who applied to Harvard and did not get in. GPA at the top of this range, almost top 5%, but not the sort of resume we thought would get him in. (He applied to make Dad happy.) He probably could have tailored the application a bit better, but really he was just clearly not a Type A Harvard student. He didn’t get into Brown either (an application that suffered from not having visited the school.)</p>

<p>He did get into U of Chicago, Tufts and Vassar, so plenty of good schools were willing to overlook his GPA, just not the Ivies - or at least not the ones to which he applied. :slight_smile: I think he’d have had a pretty good chance at Cornell. He was in range from our school, but he was looking at schools in or near cities.</p>