<p>"I think the biggest score differentials are probably for athletes in certain Div1 sports (no surprise there) and URMs. "</p>
<p>I’m guessing the biggest score differentials are for offspring of wealthy donors, students from underrepresented states, students from the inner city, and students from rural areas.</p>
<p>to cttc, why do you think that?</p>
<p>sstewart, my son was admitted to an Ivy with about a 3.6, and he was not in the top 10% of his class. He had a most rigorous courseload, very high SAT scores, a lot of leadership, commended on the PSAT. He had no hooks. His GPA at the Ivy is about the same as that in high school.
So, it is possible. That being said, you might just get a better education at Carleton. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thank you, and also let me explain that Carleton is my top choice I am just applying to an Ivy because my parents want me to, and to see if I could get in. I already know that carleton is where I feel at home( not that I do not get this from all my schools) and that it is where I want to be next year. Thanks for your support.:)</p>
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Well, it would certainly be interesting to see which of us is right! But I guess we’ll never know, since colleges hide those stats so well.</p>
<p>Don’t forget students of staff, kids from local HS where there is a “gentleperson’s agreement” to ease town/gown relationships by allowing in a few kids from the neighborhood whose stats would otherwise lead to rejection, plus “student celebrities”, i.e. Olympians, actors, etc. Not everyone is a Yo-Yo Ma; sometimes it’s worth it for a college to take an ice-skater who has been homeschooled (i.e. no gpa) and SAT’s in the high 600’s just for the prestige factor.</p>
<p>You can’t parse who has the bigger score differential. And it’s irrelevant for the typical applicant.</p>
<p>Depends on the school but MOST colleges greatest disparity group is DI athletes of revenue producing sports (football & basketball). Some Ivies can get these athletes in with around a 1200. But pretty much all of the other schools can get in almost any football/ baasketball player that quailifies with the NCAA clearing house. Exceptions would probbaly be ND & Stanford. There are alot of schools out there where athletes in these sports have SAT scores 500 pts. below the average student at that school.</p>
<p>But why would a 3.3- 3.6 GPA student want to attend an Ivy league school in the first place? Isn’t it better to be at a school where you would be one of the stronger students rather than just getting by? Also, nearly every Ivy league school is a large school with a graduate school. I would think that most students could get a better education at a LAC than at any Ivy league school.</p>
<p>Are you saying that a student with a 3.3-3.6 gpa would not do substantiallly well at an Ivy?..</p>
<p>It would go to reason, sstewart: that this hypothetical student would be at the bottom rungs, academically, at any Ivy. While no one would say it’s impossible to “do substantially well”, I would posit that it’s not very likely.</p>
<p>Viable Ivy aspirants should be known as the top scholars at their high schools by the faculty and administration – that’s what I say at my college info sessions. By implication, those that aren’t known as such – really aren’t viable candidates in general.</p>
<p>Also, in regards to the “celebs” like Olympians and actors who get into Ivies: have you seen what their HS records were? Emma and Sarah Hughes were practically 4.0 students. There are tons of actors and Olympians who don’t qualify and do not get in. Don’t think Jodie Foster, Claire Danes and Sarah Hughes were knuckleheads.</p>