<p>Regarding tuition, I once posted a table that showed how well Harvard’s tuition correlated with … its number of applicants. </p>
<p>Perhaps I can find it in CC’s archives.</p>
<p>I remember tuition/room&board going up to $10K a year and how we all thought that was completely insane, to pay that kind of money for a year of college. And I was fortunate enough to be a full pay student!</p>
<p>My parents did take me on a college tour up and down the east coast, but I actually don’t think they ever saw the school I went to til move-in day. I went up to visit by myself and stayed (allegedly) with a “female friend” of my boyfriend, who was a freshman there while I was a senior in high school. I’d never allow that, these days :-)</p>
<p>I did find it </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/33187-silly-correlation-harvard-tuition-applicants.html?[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/33187-silly-correlation-harvard-tuition-applicants.html?</a></p>
<p>02-09-2005, 07:27 PM #1 </p>
<p>**A silly correlation… Harvard tuition and applicants! **
I know it means absolutely nothing, but I find it mildly amusing that the tuition costs show a strong correlation to the number of applicants, albeit trailing by a few years. I did not plug all the numbers, but I am sure that the rest follows suit. That should support the theory of exclusivity equals higher prices. Obviously, the fact that Harvard is at the bottom of the price scale among the Ivies deflates the theory. </p>
<p>Year Tuition</p>
<p>1984 $8,752
1985 $9,500
1986 10,266
1987 11,040
1988 11,645
1989 12,310
1990 13,085
1991 13,960 => 13,029 applicants
1992 14,860
1993 15,870
1994 16,856
1995 17,851 => 18,190 applicants
1996 18,838
1997 19,770
1998 20,600
1999 21,342
2000 22,054
2001 22,694 => 19,605 applicants
2002 23,457 => 20,987 applicants
2003 24,630
2004 26,066 => 22,717 applicants </p>
<p>The only number that grows faster at Harvard is the endowment’s growth!</p>
<p>Edit Here is 2012-2013</p>
<p>Tuition $37,576 => 34,302 applicants. :)</p>
<p>I went to one of the “second tier” Ivies, i.e., not HYP. As a Catholic, I was a rare commodity, believe it or not. My class was roughly 25% Jewish, 70% white Protestants and 5% everything else. Somehow, I ended up in a suite of 4 young women. None of us was a white Protestant. One was Jewish. The other 3 of us were in the 5% “everything else.” (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Mormon.) We used to joke that they put us together so we wouldn’t contaminate the white Protestants.</p>
<p>My class was about 1% African-American.</p>
<p>“second tier”? As in the “lesser ivies?” As in Penn/Dartmouth/Cornell, etc? They are all Ivys. Don’t sell yourself short!!</p>
<p>A few years ago I was cleaning out some books and found a receipt from the cc I had attended before I transferred. I paid $6 per credit hour. It’s hard to imagine that I attended college for less than $100 per semester, but I did.</p>
<p>I ran across a yellow legal pad from my undergrad college days. I paid $0.32</p>
<p>I still have my freshman accounting book circa 1969 (I’m a CPA). The price sticker is still on it: $13.50 for an 800 page book bought new.</p>
<p>I went to Penn State from 78-82. I was also accepted at GW and Syracuse. If I remember correctly, PSU was about $2500 for tuition and room and board. GW and Syracuse were around $5000, which we thought was horribly expensive. And the grades/scores I got then wouldn’t get me into any of those schools today.</p>
<p>Found my bill for Fall semester 1980 at Texas A&M. Tuition (instate, 17 hours),fees, room, and board combined was $1401. Would’ve been $200 less had I stayed in a dorm without air conditioning!</p>
<p>Bovertine, would like to know which year you got that 70% on financial aid (at Harvard) statistic.</p>
<p>A lot changed between 1969 and 1975. Including schools going co-ed, dress code changes in high schools, more equality for females and minorities in general (including affirmative action in schools). But it still took a few years or even decades for things to really settle in and become the norm.</p>
<p>So my eyes were kind of opened by this percentage on financial aid, and I would love to know the year and also the source for the information.</p>
<p>My boyfriend started at MIT in 1981. I remember being SHOCKED that his parents were going to have pay over $10,000 a year for him to go there!</p>
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<p>Well, in all fairness, the vast majority of colleges in this country were co-ed from inception. The Ivies (w/exception of Cornell) were embarrassingly and pathetically late on this dimension (hence the Seven Sisters). They weren’t remotely leaders, they were laggers.</p>
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<p>Maybe for some. When I went to college, my private university tuition&costs was about 20% of my dad’s income. Now, I have a pretty comparable job to what my dad had then, and that same school would cost about 58% of my income.</p>
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Actrually, that statistic is wrong. It’s 40%. I must have hit the wrong key on my pda (4 is right above 7).
But it says that only 50% or so of the pool applied for FA, and they admitted without regard to FA and were able to give it to anyone they admitted who needed it.</p>
<p>It is from 1974-75 data from two sources which say pretty much the same thing.</p>
<p>Cass and Birnbaum Comparative Guide to American Colleges, 1975 edition, page 244.</p>
<p>And on the internet it is in here-
[Sequence</a> 15861 (Page 89): Harvard University. Report of the President of Harvard College and reports of departments. Harvard University Library PDS](<a href=“http://pds.lib.harvard.edu/pds/view/2582287?n=15861&s=4&printThumbnails=no]Sequence”>http://pds.lib.harvard.edu/pds/view/2582287?n=15861&s=4&printThumbnails=no)</p>
<p>UC Davis has archived general catalogs dating back to 1946-1947, if you want to look at how courses and curricula have changed. Cost information is also included in the catalogs.</p>
<p><a href=“http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/ucdwebcatalog/pdf.html[/url]”>http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/ucdwebcatalog/pdf.html</a></p>
<p>The 1946-1947 catalog, which actually covers Berkeley for the first 450 pages, lists (for two semesters) a fee of $27.50, books of $25 to $63, ASUC membership of $12.50 (optional but highly advised), board and room of $285.00 to $500.00 for men and $315.00 to $585.00 for women, and miscellaneous of $30.00 to $206.00 for men and $46.00 to $286.00 for women, for a total of $407.50 to $836.50 for men and $453.50 to $1,001.50 for women.</p>
<p>There were additional listed costs, such as lab fees of $1.50 to $34.50 per semester, engineering fees of $20.00 per semester, $2 shoes for women who take PE, $10 for students who have to take Subject A (remedial English composition), and various fees for late filing of registration type documents.</p>
<p>Non-resident tuition was $150.00 per semester ($300.00 per year).</p>
<p>The catalog also says that “Every undergraduate woman under 21 years of age must have the written endorsement of the Dean of Women for her college residence before she will be allowed to file her study list.” It does say that living with parents, in houses approved by the university, or in sororities and student clubs is approved, but other housing must be approved by the student’s parent or guardian.</p>
<p>Back then, the College of Engineering offered the following majors no longer present: agricultural engineering, economic geology, metallurgy, mining engineering, petroleum engineering. Metallurgy and mining engineering may have later become materials science and mineral engineering, which is presently just material science and engineering. Naval architecture and offshore engineering came and went between then and now, and electrical engineering is now electrical engineering and computer science.</p>
<p>The course listings for math show many more levels of precalculus math courses than there are presently. But there is also a course Math 116 called “Exterior Ballistics”, described as “The classical theory of motion of a particle subject to the forces of gravity and the resistance of the air, together with some recent developments.” Consider what the “recent developments” were in 1946…</p>
<p>I was educated overseas at a great school a bit over 35 years ago. Tuition was US$12.50/semester, everyone stayed on campus in single rooms at a similar cost, and 3 meals/day at the cafeteria was about $20/month. US text books at list price were only in the library; there were some overseas editions at a lower cost, but still high for us. The Soviets really did us a great favor by publishing a lot of technical books at throwaway prices to generate goodwill - the 900 page Calculus book by Piskunov was about 50 cents. Dad’s salary, also converted to US dollars, was just over a hundred a month, for reference.
When I came to the US on a teaching assistantship, I made just under $400/month plus tuition which was a princely amount. We had a system to pay the college application fees - our seniors picked up the fees for the few applications we sent, and we did the same for our next year batch.</p>
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<p>Even today, there are paperback international editions of many textbooks with lower prices than the hardcover editions sold in the US, but you may have to look on web retailers to find them, or ask an international student to pick one up for you on his/her next trip home. If the content is actually the same, then the paperback international editions are considered more desirable (regardless of price) by some, due to being lighter and easier to carry around.</p>
<p>My full professor husband with tenure is obviously at the wrong school too. I made $18,000 a year graduating from arch school in 1982. Tuition was $3000 a semester. They never cashed the check I gave them one semester.</p>
<p>^ did you turn it over to the state so that it goes into the unclaimed checks fund ;)</p>