<p>I'm not so sure about that when it comes to med school. There's a saying: What do you call the guy who graduates last in his class from the least prestigious medical school? Doctor. Case in point: my father was a pretty average student at a pretty average medical school ("average" being a very relative term when it comes to med schools, of course), and he got an extremely competitive residency. And of course, none of his patients care where he went to school, and neither did his employer.</p>
<p>Is that OP supposed to be for undergrad and grad?</p>
<p>there was a similar tiered ranking in the Chronicle of Higher Education before. i believe the article was titled "Who Needs Harvard Anyway?" and it made a couple great points about why ivies aren't everything and that there are a lot of great colleges in the USA.</p>
<p>undergrad</p>
<p>I don't think that the same funnelling of people into an extremely limited number of colleges occurs at the grad school level. When you go to grad school, you tend to pick the college that specialized in what you are interested in. Not everybody tries to go to the same place because the prestige is spread out across a large number of schools. If you are interested in Plasma Physics, you go to the best school for Plasma Physics, and only other physicists know what that college is. That isn't to say that the Ivies don't have the best grad programs in some fields.</p>
<p>dufus-
I like the list, it is refreshing to see a thread like this about ivie alternatives that are just as good.</p>
<p>This list is taken directly from the Atlantic Monthly. You should be ashamed for taking their list and passing it off as your own. Dufas is right....</p>
<p>I just saw kfc4u and arcadia's posts at the same time. Impromtu posted a thread today at:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=81829%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=81829</a></p>
<p>that linked to an article at:
<a href="http://www.ctcl.com/Who_Needs_Harvard.pdf%5B/url%5D">www.ctcl.com/Who_Needs_Harvard.pdf</a></p>
<p>The list is included in the article. I didn't really think that anyone would think I made it up myself. I like to think that I'm not making any of this stuff up myself. (I notice now that it says that the article did appear in the Atlantic Monthly in Oct 2004.) On the threads lately, it has seems that all anyone talks about are the Ivies. Even Stanford and MIT are being left out.</p>
<p>Attending a school with more prestige can make it easier to be accepted for a job.</p>
<p>But I do agree that students should look at much more than prestige when creating a college list.</p>
<p>Guys guys guys guys... If there is one thing we learned from this thread it is that Britney is waaay hotter than Lindsay.</p>
<p>that is all.</p>
<p>"Isn't prestige a good thing?"</p>
<p>well it's not a negative</p>
<p>"Doesn't it make a school better?"</p>
<p>no</p>
<p>dufus, i agree with u about the schools</p>
<p>I, for one, would be glad to attend any of the schools on that list</p>
<p>i believe that if u work hard and r determined u can and will succeed in life - even if u didnt go to harvard or yale</p>
<p>"St. Johns of Annapolis"</p>
<p>Okay... and why not Santa Fe?</p>
<p>dude IVIES are the best. We just gotta do our best to get in</p>
<p>almost everyone who posted here still wants to go to elite schools.</p>
<p>for example, soccerguy315, still goes to an elite school even if he doesnt believe it's better.</p>
<p>Welcome to the space jam, heres your chance do your dance.</p>
<p>People need to at least stop using the word "Ivies" and start saying "extremely selective schools" or "HYPSM". Even if your one and only criteria is prestige, nobody but a complete neophyte would not have Amherst, Caltech, UChicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Northwestern, and Stanford on their list of schools. Of course, you won't impress your grandmother if you say you are going to the University of Chicago, but your grandmother probably thinks that the University of Pennsylvania is a state school. All of the schools on this short list are more "prestigious" than the lesser Ivies to anyone who knows about schools.</p>
<p>DID YOU GUYS NOT HEAR ME!</p>
<p>Welcome to the space jam, heres your chance do your dance.</p>
<p>WHOOP DE'RE IT IS!</p>
<p>you're just seeking attention dukedevil. yo get none</p>
<p>The selectivities for the Ivy League schools differ significantly across the span of the eight schools. There are going to some applicants with SAT scores within the 1400/1600 range that are not only going to be accepted to all of the schools, but will be recruited with free plane tickets to come visit. For a normal human with a 10% chance at 3 of them, a 20% chance at 3 of them and a 30% chance at 2 of them, the probability of being accepted to at least one is:</p>
<p>P = 1 - (0.9)(0.9)(0.9)(0.8)(0.8)(0.8)(0.7)(0.7) = 81.7%</p>
<p>So maybe it isn't that bad.</p>
<p>sweet holler dude</p>