A few questions

[JohnAdams12]

<p>so CSmajor, are you saying that Princeton isn’t known for History, English Economics, Politial Science, Psychology and Sociology?</p>

<p>Because these departments at Princeton are among the top in the U.S.</p>

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I mean princeton is known for pre med/law, business and science

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<p>and when you make a comment like this</p>

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Why would anyone go to princeton for engineer program? I mean princeton is known for pre med/law, business and science… not engineer program

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<p>shouldn’t you be talking about the specific engineering program?</p>

<p>because, certainly, in the area of Chemical Engineering, Princeton is known as a great program, top 3 in the U.S. for many years and now #6.</p>

<p>and why Princeton engineering?</p>

<p>well, if you are a ChE, you have - not only the advantage of getting one of the best ChE. educations in the country, but also almost every class that you are going to take that is not in ChE is going to be in a top 10 ranked department and taught by the top professors in the country - leading to a just fabulous overall education…</p>

[lucky2010]

<p>ah, can we stop talking about princeton already?</p>

[happysunnyshine]

<p>I agree.
10 char</p>

[gstein]

<p>JohnAdams12, if anyone in this thread had any sort of interest in Princeton, you have ruined it. If I went to Princeton, I’d be ashamed to have you representing my school. You have almost as many posts as me, in not even a 2-month span of time. Get a life, go outside, and let the prestige of Princeton do the talking for itself. It certainly doesn’t need someone like you to gloat about it.</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>gstein, there we go again, and why am I not surprised?</p>

<p>another Texas A&M student in the Aerospace Engineering area…</p>

<p>say, tell us how are things going in college?</p>

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<p>they don’t appear to be going too well, but hey, you are in a top 10 program aren’t you?</p>

<p>Tell us, what is going on in that program such that causes you to say things like:</p>

<p>“Quite honestly I am interested in pursuing graduate school and furthering my studies, however I am unsure if I am cut out for it. At this point in time I’m unsure if I could actually receive good prof LOR’s, as the most interaction I’ve had with them is going to office hours. I’m also feeling bad about my sub-par GPA”</p>

<p>You are correct, let’s not discuss Princeton - we will discuss Texas A&M and that top ten program in Aerospace Engineering that several of you are currently experiencing…</p>

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JohnAdams12, if anyone in this thread had any sort of interest in Princeton, you have ruined it. If I went to Princeton, I’d be ashamed to have you representing my school. You have almost as many posts as me, in not even a 2-month span of time. Get a life, go outside, and let the prestige of Princeton do the talking for itself. It certainly doesn’t need someone like you to gloat about it.

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[JohnAdams12]

<p>lucky, what a great idea…</p>

<p>however, if you read all of your posts, they are all about Princeton</p>

<p>it is you that has been discussing this school…</p>

<p>if you deny it, then I have no problem copy/pasting every one of your attacks on Princeton Engineering?</p>

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ah, can we stop talking about princeton already?

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[JohnAdams12]

<p>So, in summary, what do we have here?</p>

<p>What have at least 4 aerospace engineers, 3 of them from Texas A&M, the other from Harvey Mudd College and a high school student with Univ. of Texas ties that have been posting negative remarks about the Princeton Engineering Program, remarks such as everyone they know thinks that Princeton Engineering is second rate. Now we know where these comments are coming from. It will be interesting to see what the Texas A&M Aeropspace Engineering Department Professors have to say about this topic this coming week.</p>

<p>We will now focus on that great Engineering Program at Texas A&M and on the school in general…</p>

[boneh3ad]

<p>Can we all just stop debating all this garbage. Clearly, no one is going to prevail, everyone is going to just keep getting angry, and no one is going to answer the OP anymore. Someone has to take the higher road. If you noticed, I was one of the prime belligerents and I just flat out stopped talking about it. I suggest everyone do the same, regardless of where you stand on the issue.</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>The Aerospace Engineering Department</p>

<p>of</p>

<p>Texas A&M University</p>

<p>[TAMU</a> Aerospace Engineering](<a href=“http://aero.tamu.edu/]TAMU”>http://aero.tamu.edu/)</p>

<p>A detailed review and analysis to follow this week</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>Texas A&M Aerospace Engineering Department</p>

<p>Ranked #10 in USNWR recent Graduate School Rankings:</p>

<p>Best Engineering Schools Specialty Rankings: Aerospace / Aeronautical / Astronautical
Ranked in 2010</p>

<p>1 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA 4.8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA 4.8 </p>

<p>3 Stanford University Stanford, CA 4.7 </p>

<p>4 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 4.6 </p>

<p>5 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 4.5 </p>

<p>6 Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 4.3 </p>

<p>7 Princeton University Princeton, NJ 4.0
University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Urbana, IL 4.0 </p>

<p>9 University of Maryland–College Park (Clark) College Park, MD 3.9 </p>

<p>10 Texas A&M University–College Station (Look) College Station, TX 3.8
University of Texas–Austin (Cockrell) Austin, TX 3.8</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>So how important are the USNWR rankings to the Texas A&M Engineering school administration?</p>

<p>Important enough that they recently issued a press release discussing this very same topic:</p>

<p>[Texas</a> A&M Engineering moves up two places in latest graduate survey | Texas A&M Engineering News | Texas A&M University](<a href=“http://engineering.tamu.edu/news/index.php/2010/04/16/texas-am-engineering-moves-up-two-places-in-latest-graduate-survey/]Texas”>http://engineering.tamu.edu/news/index.php/2010/04/16/texas-am-engineering-moves-up-two-places-in-latest-graduate-survey/)</p>

<p>Texas A&M Engineering moves up two places in latest graduate survey</p>

<p>*Texas A&M Engineering’s graduate program ranked 12th overall and sixth among public institutions in the latest U.S. News & World Report survey, “America’s Best Graduate Schools 2010.”</p>

<p>This ranking is two places higher than last year’s, which was 14th overall and eighth among public institutions.</p>

<p>Individual programs ranked were: Aerospace Engineering, 10 (6 public); Agricultural Engineering 3 (3); Biomedical Engineering, 35 (18); Chemical Engineering, 27 (17); Civil Engineering, 12 (8); Computer Science, 47 (27); Electrical Engineering, 22 (14); Industrial Engineering, 8 (6); Mechanical Engineering, 16 (9); Nuclear Engineering, 4 (3). </p>

<p>Petroleum Engineering, last ranked in 2008, was second nationally and second among public institutions. Computer Engineering, previously ranked in 2009, was 20th overall and 13th among public institutions.*</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>A look as to who is behind this fabulous Texas A&M Aerospace Engineering Department:</p>

<p>The Faculty:</p>

<p>[TAMU</a> Aerospace Engineering » By Areas of Interest](<a href=“http://aero.tamu.edu/people2/faculty/by-areas-of-interest]TAMU”>http://aero.tamu.edu/people2/faculty/by-areas-of-interest)</p>

<p>The Graduate Students:</p>

<p>[TAMU</a> Aerospace Engineering » Graduate Students](<a href=“http://aero.tamu.edu/people2/graduate-students]TAMU”>http://aero.tamu.edu/people2/graduate-students)</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>**Faculty Scholary Productivity Index</p>

<p>Aerospace Engineering**</p>

<p>[The</a> Chronicle: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/stats/productivity/page.php?year=2007&primary=5&secondary=117&bycat=Go]The”>http://chronicle.com/stats/productivity/page.php?year=2007&primary=5&secondary=117&bycat=Go)</p>

<p>1 Cornell U. 1.72 32 - - 91% 9.63 81% 31.11
2 Princeton U. 1.69 30 - - 80% 9.13 80% 42.25
3 Stanford U. 1.41 23 - - 91% 10 74% 28.14
4 U. of Colorado at Boulder 1.27 35 - - 86% 6.43 83% 21.51
5 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 1.14 44 - - 89% 8.32 75% 22.13
6 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 1.06 38 - - 82% 8.95 79% 26.58
7 U. of Michigan at Ann Arbor 1 22 - - 95% 14.27 86% 28.26
8 U. of Texas at Austin .9 35 - - 83% 5.63 74% 20.05
8 U. of California at Los Angeles .9 34 - - 79% 8.41 62% 28.33
10 U. of Minnesota-Twin Cities .81 19 - - 89% 6.95 84% 16.69</p>

[boneh3ad]

<p>That measure seems relatively useless. There are 2 schools on that list that don’t even have aerospace engineering departments.</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>bones, thanks for the info</p>

[lucky2010]

<p>argh, annoying. You act like a ■■■■■ john. I know you’re probably not, which makes this more annoying. Still, gonna treat you like one.</p>

<p>So I was thinking of NYU Poly. I know it’s not liberal arts but you can take NYU classes from poly and I remember hearing that the earning salary from there was in the highest. Now I know that’s done with kids there getting jobs in NY which has a high cost of living, still. Also, for some reason out of the ivies, in my mind, for engineering it was always Cornell, then Columbia (also in NY). Northwestern also has a decent program and can offer some liberal arts, so does Tufts. I wouldn’t say these are the greatest but they certainly have interesting research and a solid department with internships (I visited Tufts, have this sign saying “Do Not Feed the Engineers”, had a chance to visit Northwestern but lost the application). Oh, Rice. It’s in Houston, decent engineering, nice liberal arts school, very nice school. The engineering building is full of interesting building design and this ceiling painting. Certainly respectable coming from there. I just didn’t apply because I really wanted out of TX for college. I’m still wondering what the OP wants out of a liberal arts with engineering.</p>

[boneh3ad]

<p>Good call on Rice, Lucky2010. Defintely a quality program there.</p>

[JohnAdams12]

<p>rocketDA, are you sure that you want to be saying this?</p>

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The bigger question to me is why any amazing high school student would choose Princeton undergrad engineering in place of, say, MIT, Caltech, Olin, or HMC if he/she is so qualified? Now, if you want to argue the strength of Princeton undergrad against MIT, Caltech, or HMC that would be a fun argument which would inevitably send you home with your tail between your legs. There is no way in hell that Princeton is even in the sam tier as these schools for engineering. The students who attend these schools are a different breed. We “own” the subject.

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[JohnAdams12]

<p>lucky why do you continue with the attacks and insults?</p>

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from lucky:
argh, annoying. You act like a ■■■■■ john. I know you’re probably not, which makes this more annoying. Still, gonna treat you like one.

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<p>because I said this to bones?</p>

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[CSmajor5]

<p>Actually, I agree with RocketDA. I said the same argument like several posts ago. If someone attend princeton and decide to go for engineer career later on, he/she should transfer to MIT, Caltech, or Stanford for better engineer education/top research experience and career outcome. I am sure if someone can get into princeton, it will be easy to transfer to other top engineer program. It will be waste of tuition money to attend princeton for engineer degree.</p>