A matter of ethics: a student who should be busted

<p>I know a student who has been waitlisted for the Class of 2014 at Princeton University. He lied grossly in the extra information section of his application, where he said that he participated in ECAs and had accomplishments that he clearly did not. This boy's only real achievements are his grades. I found out about this through his friend who emailed me a copy of the boy's resume to express his amusement over just how much his friend had lied. </p>

<p>Although I felt that it would only be right to report this student by forwarding the email to Princeton, I don't think I will get involved. I don't think I'm in any position to do this, and I don't see why Princeton should believe his friend's email (although I do know that the waitlistee lied because I know him personally). Considering the things that were written in the waitlistee's resume and their implications, if he's reported, it could put his school in Princeton's blacklist and ruin the chances of perfectly hardworking and honest applicants in the future.</p>

<p>I'm quite stunned. What this boy did is just disappointing and sad in a way that defies words, and I don't think I need to explain why.</p>

<p>If you are stunned, email the admissions office. Either they will follow through or they won’t. But at this point, at least they won’t be worried it is a bunch of boohickey concocted by some competitor from his high school.</p>

<p>isn’t there some chance that the liar would somehow get caught anyway during his Princeton career? doesn’t the admission office check these things? or do they just not care after he gets admitted?</p>

<p>In the '70’s there was a student that entered with the freshman class, took classes, joined an eating club and socialized with the “real” students, yet turned out never to have been admitted. I believe that he pulled this off for about 3 1/2 years. Had everyone fooled.</p>

<p>You could forward the email anonymously. I do not think it will have a negative impact on the school. One of the things I hate the most is students who lie about qualifications. Think of students who did not get waitlisted but rejected. They could have tried really hard all their life to get into their dream school but didn’t because of people like that. You should definitely send admissions the incriminating email.</p>

<p>I don’t think the admissions office checks all of the information an applicant provides during the selection process. They get around 26,000 applications. If something fishy comes up, they will look into that. But considering how many super applicants that Princeton has to sift through, his application must have looked the ‘norm’.</p>

<p>I recently caught a Duke enrollee (that attacked me vicioulsy in a Duke/Princeton debate) with having discrepancies in several of his “chance me” extracurricular activies that he posted. The student’s real name was easily determined, but I just let it go since it was not clear that he would have continued with these discrepancies in the real admissions application.</p>

<p>If you’re sure this kid grossly lied on his application, report it. Do it anonymously if you want but there is NO reason he should be taking a spot away from someone who is probably more deserving and sitting around on the waitlist. And noone wants to spend the next four years with someone who is willing to lie and cheat to marginally improve his odds of acceptance.</p>

<p>Heck, you’re probably doing the kid a favor, Princeton has a strict honor code and given his inability to even get through the application process without lying, he’d probably be caught and suspended for cheating/lying at some point during his four years.</p>

<p>“Heck, you’re probably doing the kid a favor, Princeton has a strict honor code and given his inability to even get through the application process without lying, he’d probably be caught and suspended for cheating/lying at some point during his four years.”</p>

<p>Yeah, the Honor Code is a big deal up here, and any infraction whatsoever, even something that is seemingly (to us) just a minor infraction, can lead to some pretty heavy consequences.</p>

<p>Er, honestly, the honor code is overhyped. It’s so cheesy to talk of it like it’s some magical chant.</p>

<p>I would definitely report him, and if anything, not do it anonymously … that way admissions sees that you have no reason to lie about him and that you actually know him.</p>