<p>Hello, ccers
I have a student whose gpa and sat(2100s)are good.
But he does not have any ECs to speak of.
Are there any good colleges to which he can be accepted?
Thank you</p>
<p>UIUC, maybe? I have no idea where you live. They don't care about extracurriculars at all, really. </p>
<p>Basically, just try some of the large, selective state schools, because they're less likely to care about a student's details, since a lot of them use computer programs and gpa/rank/test score formulas for admissions.</p>
<p>Most of talk on CC is about the insane admissions process at the top 12 or 15 colleges. As you get out of that area, the process very quickly becomes more reasonable. For most colleges, if the student's SAT scores are near the 75% mark on the 50% SAT ranges, the student should still have a very good chance. Generally for a non-hooked applicant, a school is a safety at the 75% mark, a match at the 50-60% mark and a reach at the 25-40% mark. Without EC's, just be a little more careful. As said, most large public universities don't look at the EC's at all.</p>
<p>At colleges where the EC's really matter, the adcoms are trying to get a feel for the total person. It would matter why the student doesn't have any EC's. </p>
<p>Finally, there isn't really enough info provided. If the student is an inner city URM with a 1400/1600, they can apply anywhere.</p>
<p>Thank you dufus and sous for the responses.
He is an international student who likes neither sports nor arts.</p>
<p>Is $ a concern because there are relatively few US colleges that offer excellent financial aid to internationals, and many of those are some of the most difficult ones in the country to gain admission to, ones that do pay great attention to ECs.</p>
<p>If $ is a concern, a list of colleges offering aid to internationals is pinned to the top of the CC board on financial aid.</p>
<p>almost all large universities, private or public, dont consider ECs that important.... penn state, for example the EC section is optional; NYU is notoriously all numbers (though they claim otherwise) ... so you wont be able to get into a "top" school, but you can get into some very good ones.</p>
<p>Agree--larger schools are more "numbers driven" & don't seem to care as much about ECs. In any case, it's not too late for your child to add some EC activities, like things started now & continued over the summer & into next year.</p>
<p>There are thousands of schools out there & many good ones that would be happy to have your child, with or without ECs.</p>
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<p>Damn.....I only got a 1300 ;)</p>
<p>There are other ECs that don't involve sports or arts--volunteering to help with something the student cares about, service projects, student government, debating, tutoring, part-time jobs.</p>
<p>Large schools definatly dont care as much about EC's. I only had a few and got into NC State out of state without unreal SAT scores. Not saying State is an amazing college, but if your friend doesnt mind state schools (try going to a top state school) then I say try them</p>
<p>Thank you everyone!!!
He does not need FA.
New York University sounds thrilling.
And yes, he will find some tutorings or community services.</p>
<p>Canadian universities don't care about EC's at all (and tend to be cheaper than American universities)...</p>
<p>would the "large, selective state schools" include the UC schools?</p>
<p>does being in the 75% SAT range pretty much make up for any other shortcomings? (GPA?)</p>
<p>Define shortcoming. There is no one factor that overwhelms everything else. The one thing that would probably cause trouble for anyone would be to have a 4.0 with no AP's in a high school that offers 30 AP's.</p>
<p>Also, being in the top 75% at the top 12 or 15 schools is no measure of safety. The acceptance rate for applicants with a 1600/1600 at Harvard is about 40% (compared to 10% for the average applicant).</p>
<p>I have decided that I know nothing about the UC's. However, other people have said that they are numbers driven.</p>
<p>The GC (a former UCD adcom) says that good numbers gets you in the door for the UCs & then they look at the ECs to decide whether to admit. Good scores & good grades are helpful, but remember for state schools there are higher credentials required for out-of-state students & foreign students.</p>