A to Z: What To Bring To College

<p>That source hardly merits consideration <a href="1a">(referring to the reply to my post.)</a></p>

<p>The source is the same one <a href="2">which</a> writes that the form <a href="3a,%20b">'brung,'</a> <a href="5"></a><a href="4">as in,</a> the past tense of 'bring' is <a href="6">OK</a> as well <a href="1b">(they note that highly educated speakers use the term, but it is not standard in formal writing.)</a></p>

<p>Here is where my opinion differs from that of Bartleby's: By referring to <a href="8">someone as a </a><a href="7">highly-educated speaker</a>, I am noting that their speech sounds nearly identical to <a href="8">their</a> <a href="3b">'formal writing.'</a> In a perfect world, there would be no distinction between spoken and written grammar whatsoever.</p>

<p>My point is, if <a href="11">one's goal is </a><a href="9">to simply get by</a> with the English language, meeting the mark of coherence, college may not be the best place for <a href="10">him/her</a>.</p>

<p>1a: Since the words inside the parentheses are a phrase, the period should go outside the parentheses.
1b: This is an independent clause within the parentheses, and thus, the period should go inside the parentheses. In addition, there should be a period after "as well" and "they" should be capitalized.
2: The relative clause beginning with "which" is a nonrestrictive clause and therefore should begin with "that." (This is the rule, but in reality, using "which" for a restrictive clause is very common and is acceptable.)
3a: Double quotation marks should be used rather than single quotation marks, unless you are following British grammar and usage. But if so:
3b: Whereas American grammar dictates that commas should always be placed inside quotation marks, British grammar requires that the comma be placed outside the quotation marks.
4: There should not be a comma after "as in."
5: There should be a comma after "bring" because you have a comma after "brung," thus indicating that you have a nonrestrictive appositive.
6: Since you're talking about speech being equivalent to formal writing, "OK" obviously does not belong.
7: "Highly-educated" does not need to be hyphenated. You should hyphenate words such as "well-dressed," "ill-prepared," or "better-designed" when they precede the noun. However, they are not hyphenated when they follow the noun. In addition, adverbs that end in -ly are never hyphenated. (This is a paraphrase of what the MLA handbook says, by the way.)
8: Since you've used "someone," which is a singular noun, you also need a singular possessive adjective, which would be "his." I don't follow this rule all the time, but formal writing requires one to be more stringent.
9: A split infinitive is a no-no in formal writing. There is no logical reason why you shouldn't use a split infinitive, since this rule is based on Latin grammar, where it's impossible to split an infinitive, but the rule in formal writing is to avoid it.
10: Using "him/her" is both technical and lazy and should be avoided. You could easily replace this with "him or her," but see below:
11: Since you used "one's," the proper pronoun to use at the end of the sentence should be "one," not "him/her" or any other variant. (There is some disagreement about this rule. Some say that using "him" or "her" is acceptable, while others say that only "one" is acceptable. Personally, I see nothing wrong with using "him," and that's my preference, but this is a rule you should know about when writing.)</p>

<p>You should have at least heard of "profligate" (excessive), as in "profligate spending," for example. I think "profligate" is a fairly common word used in writing, especially in news reports and such. "Verboten" is a German word meaning "forbidden." I've never heard of this word used in speech, and I would usually use "forbidden" anyway. However, "verboten" has a connotation of "fobidden by authority," (e.g., "Bible study was encouraged, while dancing was verboten in Puritan society.") which is not found in just "forbidden." "Riparian" (relating to a riverbank, e.g., "riparian woodlands") is a word I have never heard in speech or seen in writing, although I do know this word. (This happens with many words; I would never use "anon," for example.</p>

<p>Formal writing and everyday speech will never be the same because all words have connotations. There are many words that will be used only in writing because they are seen as being too formal; using them in everyday speech would be seen as pretentious. I could say, "At seven in the evening, I go for my everyday stroll." Compare that with, "At seven in the evening, I go for my quotidian perambulation." Other words will be used in writing but not in speech because they are archaic, such as "anon." You'll find that in general, Latinate words have connotations of being formal, pretentious, educated, etc., whereas Germanic words have connotations of being visceral, simple, down-to-earth, etc. Compare "everyday stroll" with "quotidian perambulation" above, or something like "He killed himself" versus "He committed suicide."</p>

<p>You guys are all idiots. Those things aren't even needed. You are all FOBs.</p>

<p>thanks guys, esp stele32, for trying so hard to woop his booty, for that funny side argument to a wonderful thread--thanks kate..regardless of bring/brung/ take/vertaken..</p>

<p>i would have almost forgotten to remember to take these things:</p>

<p>bandages, body lotion, stamps, my ethernet cables (eek almost forgot those), my trusty bought-for-college loofah, a nail cutter, tools (who would think a screwdriver would come in handy), and of course my lucky swim trunks </p>

<p>nice nice list</p>

<p>wow great list! Not sure if this is on the list, but I'm also bringing a sleep mask (one that covers the eyes and blocks out light) for when the roommate still has the lights on when i want to sleep.</p>

<p>Allergy meds are a definite. Don't forget, campuses pride themselves on their flowers and grass and come spring there is always a ton of pollen. I was a city girl who never had any allergies until I set foot onto my campus. </p>

<p>Also, a deck of cards, shoe insoles (some of you will be doing a lot more walking and your feet will be protesting) and a good first aid kit. Stick to regular store bought bandages though. My mother decided I need everything for my first aid kit and i had crazy things like dissolvable stitches, extra absorbent gauze, and even a freakin scalpel. I swore she thought I was going to med school or something. I had to tell her that if something so bad happened I need a scalpel, that much gauze or stitches, i'd be at a hospital, not sitting on my bed fixing myself.</p>

<p>lol, my aunt's new car came with a similar first aid kid. It was about the size of my torso and fit behind one of the rear seats. Man, you could equip a small hospital with that stuff.</p>

<p>Don't forget to bring yourself.</p>

<p>im thinking of fedexing myself there, it comes out much cheaper...</p>

<p>I really enjoyed reading this list, as I made a similar one for myself last year. Since I have most of the basics leftover from last year, I just used the list to refresh my memory for things I ran out of that I'll need to buy again before I go back to college.</p>

<p>Some people truly enjoy making lists like this. It's a fun way to look forward to something exciting -- like going off to college. Not to mention a good idea. The "trivial" things on the list are often things you really wouldn't think of otherwise that you WILL find out that you need at the last minute and yes you can go get them at the store but sometimes you are in a rush (someone told me to bring wrapping paper with me, and it was great advice because you never know when you might need/want to give a spur-of-the-moment gift to someone) or you feel too sick to go to the store and you're glad you have that box of nyquil sitting in your desk.</p>

<p>So for all the people criticizing the list: who cares? If you don't like it, it's as easy as closing the window in your web browser. Saying "this list is too long" does not help anyone. People can decide for themselves what items they need and don't need. </p>

<p>And for all the people who said they are just going with a suitcase and toothbrush and laptop, I pity you.</p>

<p>... you're a sweetheart. Thanks for writing that. :)</p>

<p>Clothing:</p>

<p>6 pairspants
2 sweat pants
1 Dress Pant
2 shorts
10 T-shirts
4 Sweaters
1 Dress Shirt
1 Coat (Was a Rain Coat, Cold Weather with liner, and warm weather)
5 Pairs of Footwear (Boots, Dress Shoes, Sandals, Athletic Shoes, Regular Everyday Wear shoes)
10 Pairs of Socks
14 Pairs of Boxers</p>

<p>School Supplies:</p>

<p>4 Folders (Different Colors)
4 Notebooks (Different Colors to match Folders)
1 Large Pack of Mech. Pencils
1 Large Pack of Pens
3 Hi-Liters (Different Colors)
1 Shrpie Marker
1 Ruler
1 Pair of Scissors
1 Pencil Box
1 Index Card Holder
1 Day Planner (Usually School sells themed ones for the school)
1 Laptop Bag
1 Backpack </p>

<p>Hygeine: </p>

<p>2 Bottles of Shampoo (Hair Is Usually Kept Shaved during most of year)
2 Bottles of Body Wash (Buy more as needed)
2 Can of Shaving Cream
1 Razor with Extra Razors
4 Deodorant Sticks (Buy more as needed)
1 Bottle of Baby Powder (Gotta Love the Stuff)
3 Bottles of Cologne
1 Nail Clipper/File Combo set
1 Pair of Tweezers
1 Electric Barbers Razor
1 Can of Footspray
1 Bottle of Foot Powder
1 Dispensable Bottle of Handsoap
1 Box of Condoms</p>

<p>Miscelaneous Household Stuff:</p>

<p>1 Large Box of Laundry Soap
3 Plastic drawer Set
1 Stand Alone Closet
1 Shoe Rack
1 Hat Rack
3 CD Binders (Take less if needed)
1 Bed Spread
1 Small Reading Lamp
1 Alarm Clock (Two would have been better)
1 Cordless Phone + Answering Machine
1 Small Fridge
1 Small Microwave
1 Cooler
1 Pistol Safe
1 Stand Alone CD/DVD Tower
2 Sets of Personal Silverware
2 Plates
2 Bowls
3 Large Glasses
1 Blender</p>

<p>Medicine:
1 Tylenol PM
1 Claritin ( I am allergic to dust)
1 Tylenol
1 Pepto Bismo Bottle
1 Inhaler
1 Non-Apsirin Pain Reliever (For Guests who couldnt have aspirin)
1 Bottle of Eye Drops
1 Flu and Sinus Med.
1 Ice Pack</p>

<p>Fun & Entertainment:</p>

<p>1 Xbox
1 Ps2
1 Laptop
1 Tv
1 Desktop PC
1 Series of Interesting Books
1 Hiking Backpack + Equipment
CDs/DVDs/Games in the CD Binders
1 Cd Player (gotta get me an iPod)
1 George Foreman Grill
1 Small Charcoal Grill
1 Mossberg 590 Shotgun + 100 Shells
1 Kimber Tactical Custom + 2 Boxes of JHP</p>

<p>Stuff For Everyday Carry:</p>

<p>1 Wallet
1 Cell Phone (Very Useful if you dont want to buy calling cards)
1 Watch
1 Can of High Quality Mace (I'd carry a pistol but my state does not follow the constitution)
1 Hand Sanitizer
1 Pack of Gum (Trying to quit smoking)
1 Book (U do a lot of sitting around and should make the most of it)
1 Pocket Knife (Always Useful)
1 Leathermen Multi-Tool (Never know when u need a screwdriver at the coffeeshops)
1 Pocket Flashlight (Very Useful to Have)
1 Lighter ( Ok.... I admit I had smokes to)
1 Pen
1 Small Notepad
1 Chapstick
1 Handkerchief</p>

<p>I found that this is useful stuff to have and it is not all that cramped to keep in a dorm room or a studio apartment. I am sharing a house with friends and I see a lot of people taking all kinds of crap with them. I found that the things I used the most were what I expected to use the least: Grills, Sandals, Leathermen tool, Flashlight (Nice to walk in the woods at night and not trip over branches), and a blender. The hankerchief was also really useful to help wipe away embarrasing when your room is to far to return.</p>

<p>Find compact stuff that will fit you. Not stuff to fit the room. Make sure that the school allows that stuff in the dorms. We had some issues at our school about keeping the charcoal for the grills in the room (stupid rules for stupid people). And if not try to find a friend off campus. In the case of firearms I could keep them in my room as I had a studio apartment that was furnished. Someone said about buying stuff after you arrive. That is generally the best idea for big items. I just brought a very few things down and I was fine shopping at Walmart for the rest. It will save a lot of hassle and a lot of $$. The local shopping center will usually have a large sale and you dont have to pay shipping.</p>

<p>Gatman,
I am curious about your pistol safe and firearms. Are they normally allowed on campus? Or are you renting off campus? My son is a competitive target shooter, and would love it if his school had a team or club. But don't you have to keep your stuff in the armory?</p>

<p>"My son is a competitive target shooter, and would love it if his school had a team or club."</p>

<p>Do you what would happen if we gave college students weapons? They are not allowed on-campus. Remember, your son is going to college to get an education, not becoem a professional competitive target shooter. Does that make sense?</p>

<p>
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Are they normally allowed on campus?

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In today's age of terrorism, can you imagine any college allowing firearms and other such potential weapons on their campus???</p>

<p>I fully agree with Sdizzle's statement.</p>

<p>You have to keep your firearms in the local campus police station. I was able to keep them in my apartment because it was not on campus. Many schools have lockers at the police station where your son will need to buy his own lock and sign them in. I have a friend who would retrieve his pistols to clean them from time to time and we had no trouble checking them out at odd hours. </p>

<p>Hey SDizzle, college students carry guns everyday. They are called Marines, Soldiers, Airmen,and Seamen. And so what if he target shoots? It doesnt mean he is only going to college to shoot. A few posts up mentioed a deck of cards and noone bothered to say to remember we are going for our education and not to be professional card players. I see a pistol as a life saving device just like a fire extinguisher or a seatbelt. </p>

<p>ilk725, what kind of shooting is your son into? I shot some IDPA and USPPA type matches. They are a lot of fun. What state are you in? Some states will allow you to get your son a CCW license and he can just carry it around town? As for keeping it on campus most states don't allow it other then at the police station. I believe the state of Utah was informed by their Supreme Court that they have to allow CCW license holders in the building with their firearms and no repercussions. Anyways <a href="http://www.packing.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.packing.org&lt;/a> is a good site to start with. He might be able to keep it in the room but most colleges will say no way. If it isnt illegal I see it as why not, all the school can do is penalize you and you wont be charged by law enforcement. Its just like keeping beer in the room in my eyes. Anyways if you check your sons school most don't have any "combat shooting" type clubs but have a lot of rifle clubs, trap clubs, and skeet clubs.</p>

<p>Oh puhleeze, of course my son is going to college to further his education. Of course students shouldn't keep weapons...that's why colleges with teams keep their firearms in the school armory! (I don't want students to burn down the dorms with cigarettes or George Foreman grills, either). Normally, .22 caliber specialty rifles are used in competitive shooting, so I was wondering why Gatman was taking a pistol safe a Mossberg shotgun and a Kimber Tactical Custom (pistol) to school.</p>

<p>FYI, here is a list of colleges with NCAA Rifle Teams. You may notice some surprising names among them!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.riflesports.com/ncaa/university.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.riflesports.com/ncaa/university.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Gatman,
We crossed posts. I sent you a pm.</p>

<p>Recieved the PM and replied.</p>

<p>The reason I brought a .45 caliber over a .22 is cause I use it for carry on Springbreak and when I travel into Indy or St. Louis. And we go to Kentucky occasionally for the weekend. As well as I like IDPA shooting. The Mossberg was more for a Home Defense Gun. I love the Kimber and it is a tack driver. Very accurate and such that I can use it for more practical shooting applications. </p>

<p>And yes I still got decent grades in school. I want to start a Combat pistol shooting team for IDPA matches. Shooting is one of the oldest sports. People seem to forget that the original olympic games were a test of martial (read combat) skills.</p>

<p>gatman, the guns sure are a great way to ensure u never have an annoying roomate lol</p>

<p>I guess. However they are nothing more then a Fire Extinguisher or a Seatbelt in my eyes. Anyways all you have to do is get some training and they become a great source of entertainment as well as security. When I was in Phoenix for Thanksgiving break visting a young lady, we went to the gas station and she went to the washroom around back. Some guy started following her into the restroom but decided against it when I called to her and "accidentally" flashed the gun on my hip. I feel as though I saved her life and his. I wish they tought gun safety in schools like they did in the old days. They can teach safe sex but not safe shooting? Anyways I suggest you go pick up a gun and get some training. <a href="http://www.packing.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.packing.org&lt;/a> is a great place to find out if you can legally arm yourself to protect yourself from muggers, rapists, drunks, and the other wackos that are often found in college towns.</p>