<p>lol @ this thread and the tags.</p>
<p>Just someone who thinks he is being funny… whatever. You get quite a few of those people on these forums.</p>
<p>You know, for a lot of large college classes, you can easily walk in and nobody’s going to tell you anything. If there’s like 200 students there, a professor isn’t going to pick you out and say “wait a minute, I don’t know you,” at least not in the early days. It’s not correct to do that, but certainly possible.</p>
<p>@ OP - sucks man. You just gotta learn to handle adversity and move on. If anything, you can take a higher math class this summer officially for credit, then let colleges know that you’ve unofficially taken those courses and that’s why you could take the higher one. For example, if you take MVC, nobody in their right mind will question whether you took Calc I because that is an obvious pre-requisite.</p>
<p>“Northstarmom and Consolation - literally everything you are saying is 100% flat out wrong, not to mention mean-spirited and idiotic. These are some of the stupid posts I’ve seen on CC. Almost every college let’s the professors’ families take courses for free.”</p>
<p>This may be true with private colleges, but it’s not true with public colleges. Where I taught, everyone who was taking a course was expected to pay. Certainly, profs could let their kids sit through classes, but to get credit for those courses, the kid would have to officially register and pay the same as anyone else would have to pay. </p>
<p>Also, if the college where the OP took courses allowed profs’ kids to take classes for free, the OP would have been officially registered for the class.</p>
<p>“You can easily correct this. Write a letter stating what happened, what courses you took at the school and with which professors and what grades you got in them, and then have all the professors you’ve had for them sign their names. That’s what I would do. Or ask if they will write a brief description of the course, a brief evaluation of how you did with it and with what grade they gave you, and then have them sign it, seal it in a letter and all that **** and hand it in. The fact that one of the letters or signatures will be by your father doesn’t matter. No one but you is seriously freaking out about this integrity and possible preferential treatment bs.”</p>
<p>He still would not be likely to get credit for the courses since he wasn’t officially registered for the courses. The colleges may recognize that he spent his summer sitting in college courses, but they aren’t likely to give him college credit for taking those courses.</p>
<p>1) Right, wherever you taught was different. Great. Although I doubt there is some divide between public and private schools on this fringe benefit perk. If OP’s school doesn’t allow professors’ families to take classes for free, then I would change my opinion. But I quite doubt this.</p>
<p>2) Well duh he wouldn’t get credit for it, who cares? If the OP is going to the caliber school that most CC members go to (which he probably is, if he takes advanced college math classes over the summer), he wouldn’t get college credit for it even if he was registered.</p>
<p>I was in a similar situation because I was advanced in math but my school refused to pay the college i took math classes at so i wasn’t a registered student.</p>
<p>put it in your college app (don’t put your grades in since they don’t count), write about it in your essays if you want. Most importantly, have your counselor (optimally) or the math department head (less optimal) write about it in their recommendation. Will it count as much as if you had been registered? nope. Will it help out? yes, definitely.</p>
<p>“Well duh he wouldn’t get credit for it, who cares? If the OP is going to the caliber school that most CC members go to (which he probably is, if he takes advanced college math classes over the summer), he wouldn’t get college credit for it even if he was registered.”</p>
<p>The OP appears to care, which was one of the points of this thread.</p>
<p>If his main point was wanting the colleges to know that he had taken the courses, he could just get the prof who isn’t his father to write a supplemental recommendation for him.</p>
<p>@Mcgoogly: many colleges do accept transfer credit. I know Duke engineering does (there are a set of stipulations, like at university level, competition with other college students - things the OP meets). Also if he were going on to medical school AMCAS does allows colleges classes taken in HS to be used for GPA calculations. It may not factor into his UG GPA, but it will go onto his transcript as transfer credit. </p>
<p>@OP: I don’t see how the situation is unfair, if you were enrolled you would have gotten credit otherwise you don’t. I feel sorry that you didn’t know, but its not unfair. You should have asked sooner if you were enrolled in the classes or just taking them for fun. Also if you just took the classes for college, there are other things that you could have done that would had a greater impact. Doing research or curing cancer 
would have looked much better. With your example of the SAT score, at least the person will have the confidence that he/she can retake it and get the same score. Likewise you should have the confidence that you will get A’s in college. </p>
<p>This is outside looking in, but if you want to be considered mature and not a privileged white kid then you have to start looking at things from the outside. That is the way the world works. You asked for help and this the help that people can give. They are outsiders looking in. If you step back a moment, in the long run this won’t matter at all. You will still go to college and you can do great. </p>
<p>CC is not the place to whine, I hate it when kids do that. This is a place for HS students to get advice on how to better themselves. Clearly you have gotten advice. </p>
<p>@Northstarmom, I am pretty sure that you are right. Kids will probably get it cheaper or maybe even free (have not heard about that), but the kid has to enroll officially. The OP clearly was not officially enrolled. </p>
<p>@loopy: based off the OP’s description of the situation it seems as though his Dad simply asked others if his son could sit through the class and learn and would not have gone through the dean, but idk the situation in its entirety.</p>
<p>Contact the dean or administration of your college. Maybe your dad, as a faculty member, can help you make your case and secure you a transcript.</p>
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<p>What makes you think OP is a white kid?</p>
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<p>I know a family with 8 kids and dad is a custodian at the local state flagship. All his children who have gone to college there have gone for FREE. This isn’t a benefit unique to professors, it’s frequently extended to all employees of a university.</p>
<p>^Good point.<br>
My mom’s dad was the Sports Information Director at a midwest university and my mom went there for free. But she had to register for classes in order to get the credit. </p>
<p>I think vasudevank, Consolation, and NorthStarMom are absolutely right. OP was emotional, didn’t think calmly, and then got mad when the advice wasn’t what he wanted to hear. The situation WAS fair, it just wasn’t what he wanted. </p>
<p>He can still get a letter of rec from a prof in his dad’s department which would describe his work in detail (much like a letter for an unpaid intern would love to get), score through the roof on his SATs, possibly get credit for some math classes, and will probably get some phenomenal fat envelopes come April. Not a bad payoff in my worthless opinion.</p>
<p>I know several professors whose kids go for free but they follow the university’s official procedure - registering officially for classes using tuition waivers. One friend’s kid decided to go elsewhere but luckily for her, that college was part of her plan and tuition waivers applied there as well. I actually considered getting a job at Columbia for this employee benefit… </p>
<p>BTW, my son took 2 classes a semester (4 classes total senior year of HS) at Columbia University as part of a HS Honors Program. He did not receive college credit for these classes but he listed them on his college application - actually his separate resume. He also attended classes at Brown University two summers. He INTENTIALLY chose non credit classes because they interested him more. Don’t despair. Consider it this way. You took enrichment classes for the sake of learning. We didn’t see that as a bad thing. If anything, it could help you at a school that values interest, self-motivation, dedication and hard work - as opposed to grades and trying to skip ahead. My son currently attends Brown University (turning down several top schools) so it CAN work out.</p>
<p>When considering colleges, check out the tuition benefits your father may be eligible for. From the Embry-Riddle website:</p>
<p>Tuition Exchange Program (TE)
The Tuition Exchange Scholarship Program (TE) provides the opportunity for dependent children of Embry-Riddle’s full-time employees to attend a participating TE college or university at a significant tuition reduction or at no tuition charge. Please note that the TE program is a scholarship opportunity rather than a fringe benefit. </p>
<p>Tuition Waivers
Eligible employees and/or their family members may receive 100% waivers of tuition for undergraduate and graduate courses and/or 25% waivers of flight lab fees at Embry-Riddle. To receive tuition waivers, employees may only enroll in either two undergraduate courses (up to seven credit hours) OR two graduate courses (up to six credit hours) per semester. Other restrictions and guidelines apply.</p>
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<p>Leaving aside your, uh, commentary, if the kid could register for free–or at a reduced price, which had occurred to me also–WHY DIDN’T HE??</p>
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<p>HE’S the one who is raving about having “wasted” his time if he doesn’t get credit for courses in which he–for some reason known only to his father, I gather–wasn’t registered! The rest of us have suggested that he should take the attitude that it was great that he got this opportunity for additional education. Not only that, but many people suggested how the OP could present the information in a way that would enable him to emphasize his love of learning and decision to spend his time attacking higher level math. But no! He was continuing to freak about not getting credit for courses that he didn’t register for and didn’t pay for, while maintaining that his family, because they go to church, have better ethics than other people. What’s wrong with that picture?</p>
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I assumed it was because his dad is a stereotypical Ivory Tower math professor who didn’t bother with the bureaucratic details of registering.
Seeing what jerzgrlmom copied and pasted from Embry-Riddle’s website in the post above you, I’m certain this is the case.
Still, apologies for acting rude, I thought you were just ranting against how unfair it is that professor’s kids get to “cheat the system” and all that.</p>
<p>And yeah, I would be freaking out if I spent all my summers taking classes and didn’t even get a transcript’s-worth of recognition out of it. Aside from his kinda hilarious comments on church integrity, give the kid a frickin break. I mean seriously what the heck: “stealing credits”, be a little less of an internet crusader</p>
<p>vasudevank - right, but what I’m saying is that I doubt that a top school would accept a course from Embry-Riddle as transfer credit (due to the set of stipulations you mentioned, which would be “comparable course rigor” or something like that) anyway. That said, I’ve never heard of Embry-Riddle and have no idea the level of its summer classes so I could be wrong.</p>
<p>@MamaDrama: This was related to a earlier comment, where the OP was called a white kid. I was in no way assuming he is white (although that is the safest assumption based on probability).</p>
<p>@vasudewank - OP is chinese (from his previous threads).</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that he is complaining about lack of credit for a bunch of math/computer classes that has taken over summers while in his other threads he talks about his dislike for math.</p>
<p>Just give it a rest, people. What’s done is done. I find it sad people need to cross-reference OTHER posts by me to try to make some kind of judgment about me- That’s pretty wrong, actually. </p>
<p>Let this thread die. And I HAVE listened to advice given to me here- forgive me for feeling bad about something… because we know everyone always has perfect equanimity, or else they are just whining babies… oh wait.</p>
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<p>I freely admit that his “we have better ethics because we go to church” stance ticked me off in a major way. 
This filled me with a desire to point out the ethical implications of his situation.</p>
<p>In fact, I figure his dad didn’t register him because he probably would have had to go through some kind of bureaucratic application process and he might not have qualified due to age or something. Not because the dad had any intention of “stealing credits.” The dad is probably an idealistic type who actually values the education for its own sake, unlike the OP, who clearly could give a rat’s ass about learning unless it gets him into a reachier school.</p>
<p>I could swear I saw this horse’s ears twitch, so I’ll get in a few licks here too. :D</p>
<p>There is a similar employee benefit at my Big State U: Full-time employees and their dependents get significantly reduced tuition. To take a class, you apply for admission or co-enrollment, then register for the class, then fill out a tuition waiver.</p>
<p>If you’re not admitted, you can’t register (summer admission requirements are minimal for a non-degree student, but you must apply). If you’re not registered… not only can’t you get credit, a grade, or a transcript… but Risk Management will have kittens if they find out you’re attending a class. That’s a huge no-no. Not so much because you didn’t pay (although that’s a consideration, of course), but because of the university’s liability for you being there without the usual contractual agreement between university and students.</p>
<p>I’m a bit surprised at the OP’s dad’s choice to bring him to work as an unenrolled, unofficial student (based on what’s been presented here). Perhaps ERAU is a little different from the norm, or the dad had some sort of dispensation to let his kiddo sit in just for grins. Or perhaps the OP didn’t have what he needed in order to apply; e.g., SAT scores are required and he hadn’t yet taken the SAT. This wouldn’t happen in my university despite the tuition waiver benefit.</p>
<p>I agree with others here that his time in the classes was not wasted. It seems that he’s gotten that message and started focusing on the positive aspects of his situation, so I’m sure things will work out just fine for him.</p>