<p>Is there a range for the scores, when the adcoms start looking at personality,EC's...etc?</p>
<p>For the SAT, is it 2100 and above?</p>
<p>And what about in terms of GPA?</p>
<p>I don't think it's anything concrete (or at least that's what the admissions people tell us), but you can get a pretty good idea of expected GPAs/SATs by looking at a school's 25%-75% range. If you're in that range, consider your SAT/GPA good enough to give your essays/personality/recs some solid weight.</p>
<p>Unless you go to a hypercompetitive school, I think the bare minimum is generally top 5% w/ a 2100. More realistically, I think the serious threshold (where academics then have diminishing returns) falls out top 1% w/ a 2250.</p>
<p>If you are not a recuited athlete, URM or otherwise irresistible, it would be nice to be in the upper half of the 25 - 75 range or higher. Also, check out the actual 25-75 range for individual test components on the Common Data Set, not the bs US News total, which is simply incorrect.</p>
<p>That common data set is so intimidating. A 3.9 is average and only 6% of people with less than a 3.75 got in. </p>
<p>I'd say a 3.9 and a 750+ Sat would be the threshold. Also, a 32 ACT is average.</p>
<p>3.9 weighted?</p>
<p>Stanford doesn't use weighted grades. But, I don't know if this number reflects Stanford's own calculation of grades (after 9th grade, academic courses only).</p>
<p>I don't understand the class rank. If Stanford doesn't count freshman year grades and ecs, do they still rank with freshman year included?</p>
<p>Well, they have to. They can't go to your school and compare the froshless grades of everyone there. This is why the freshmen year not being counted isn't as great as you'd hope. It still includes freshmen year when they look at your rank.</p>
<p>For all top schools (with the exception of students from a very few preps and magnets), it sure would help if the official record or the GC report said you were one of the top very few in your class. Unless you have a big hook, why would they take from the top 10% instead of the top 1% or 2%, as somehow defined?</p>
<p>All ivies can be "quirky" in whom they accept. They can afford to pick & choose what suits their needs in any given year or at any given time. You have to have something that attracts them. Many of them reject validictorians & class presidents & other folks with high stats because they don't want to have ONLY those types of students--they want students that bring something special to their campuses (often a passion). Anyway, that's my understanding & it's what we were told by GC & what I've read.</p>
<p>So can an extremely genuine passion compensate for modest SAT scores? (like a 2100)</p>
<p>You never know without applying. It's important that you demonstrate this passion in your activities (ECs). Your GC can advise you--if you don't apply, you'll always wonder, "what if?"</p>