<p>With a top journalism school, solid business school, and great school overall, why do they accept over 80%? I mean it doesn't make any sense. Could someone explain why it is such a joke to get into?</p>
<p>Because it’s many kids’ safety. They accept more, knowing a smaller % will enroll. It’s “yield.” You can look up the school’s yield. Or, they offer lousy aid and many kids who would call it a top choice are forced to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>The real reason is that Mizzou has clearly defined admission standards. Get a 24 on your ACT and you are admitted. Get lower than a 24 with a required class rank and you are in. The ACT average in the state is 21. That student would need to ranked in the top 38% of his or her class to be accepted.</p>
<p>So getting in is no secret. It’s clearly laid out on the admissions website. Missouri residents who don’t meet the posted standard do not bother to apply. Instead, they go to one of the directional state universities–most of which offer much better merit aid. (So lookingforward is partially correct.)</p>
<p>The J-School requires a 29 for direct admission as a freshman, but you need to maintain a 3.0 in your first two years before you can take J-School classes.</p>
<p>It is the state’s flagship university. Educating the top students in the state should be its mission. If that’s a “joke” to you, maybe you need to look at somewhere you find more prestigious.</p>
<p>Here are some facts that you might like to know.
[Pride</a> points | Mizzou - University of Missouri](<a href=“http://www.missouri.edu/about/pridepoints.php]Pride”>http://www.missouri.edu/about/pridepoints.php)</p>
<p>I don’t think im above it. Its just that its a little high and you don’t see it that high in other states. I dont want any disrespect. I’m sorry.</p>
<p>I think you are jumping ahead of yourself. Most kids should investigate the actual strengths of programs they are interested in before looking at the intricate institutional stats. Acceptance rates and yield are more a matter for “chance me” threads - not for narrowing down schools that so clearly excel in your interest area.</p>
<p>AZ State runs about 90% and many of it’s programs are strong. Same for Univ of Oklahoma, running even higher.</p>
<p>OK, thank you for the info. Does anyone know by chance how hard the classes are? Do you know how challenged the average student is?</p>
<p>The classes are hard. Yes, they will challenge you. My S’ roommate was in the gifted program all through highschool with a high ACT and he thought his classes at Mizzou were hard last year. The ‘average’ student will be VERY challenged in some classes, and averagely challenged in others. Mizzou is known for a quality education - harder and more prestigous than other schools. (If you put a Mizzou grad up against another local state Missouri school grad…the MU grad will get the job.)</p>
<p>They have several classes that are ‘weeder’ classes. They are intended to ‘weed out’ the strong & the struggling. They do have a high acceptance rate, but 40% of the Freshman will not return.</p>
<p>Be sure to use Rate My Professor when choosing classes. They have some that are terrible with rediculous grading practices.</p>
<p>The previous posts about poor merit aid are true and Mizzou is one of the more expensive Missouri schools. Some kids apply , hoping to attend, then later choose a more reasonably priced one or one that has offered more aid.</p>
<p>being out of state the price would be 20,000 dollars a year tuition. Would they give any financial aid to a middle class family?</p>
<p>It depends on what you mean by “challenged.” In general, my S did not find the entry-level, big-lecture courses especially difficult in terms of getting a decent grade, but he enjoyed them, liked the reading, and had good teachers. I’d define that as “challenged” because the classes were meaningful and made him think. Now that he’s in upper-level courses in his major and minor, the work is more difficult. In some departments those classes are a mix of undergrad and grad students, and he likes that.</p>
<p>Don’t assume that you’ll get easy A’s at Mizzou, because it doesn’t happen. Read what other posters have said and understand that the acceptance rate is misleading, because students don’t apply unless they meet minimum criteria. You’ll find some who want to be serious students and some who don’t, but that’s true at many schools. Mizzou has been a great all-around experience for my son.</p>
<p>that’s great to hear, thank you. So I’m kind of confused, is it harder than the average state school? And what is your sons major? I want to major in strategic communications and economics in the college of arts and sciences. Do you know anything about those two programs?</p>
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<p>Everyone defines middle class differently, so none of us can evaluate your family’s financial situation. The state’s appropriation for higher education has been sliced each year for several years. There is not much merit-based aid for instate students; even less for out-of-state. Mizzou does not promise to meet a student’s full need. The state doesn’t have that kind of money. The average student gets $11,000 in financial aid BUT that includes loans.</p>
<p>Here’s a link to automatic merit aid for OOS students.
[Mark</a> Twain Nonresident Scholarship | Student Financial Aid | University of Missouri](<a href=“http://financialaid.missouri.edu/types-of-aid/scholarships/scholarships/mark-twain-nonresident-scholarship/index.php]Mark”>http://financialaid.missouri.edu/types-of-aid/scholarships/scholarships/mark-twain-nonresident-scholarship/index.php)</p>
<p>that looks great. Thank you for that.</p>
<p>Strat comm is in the journalism school. Though my son originally was in the j-school and has many friends who still are, I can’t tell you anything useful. I do know that the economics course for journalism students was tough. </p>
<p>You are asking some very subjective questions. Is Amherst harder than Williams? It’s impossible to say. Mizzou may not be known for academics (like Michigan or UVa, for instance). But smart people do attend Mizzou, and there are excellent teachers on the faculty.</p>
<p>what did you’re son end up doing? Also do you know how hard it gets within the degree of BS in economics</p>
<p>My D. will be junior at J-school this year; according to her almost all J-classes are pretty hard, in some of them you don’t see any “A”-s at all 
She even read all required textbooks for her next Broadcasting class during summer break Strategic communications is one of the most competitive majors in J-school, so try to be directly admitted to J-school and keep a good GPA. And actually you can start taking J-classes during the first semester of freshman year.</p>
<p>wait i thought you get in the journalism school and you can pick your concentrations. You really have to compete to get into a concentration?</p>
<p>If you are directly admitted to J-school, you can start taking J-classes that are Lower-Division Journalism Requirements ( [Missouri</a> School of Journalism: Fall 2010 Undergraduate Curriculum](<a href=“http://journalism.missouri.edu/undergraduate/curriculum-2010.html]Missouri”>http://journalism.missouri.edu/undergraduate/curriculum-2010.html) ). After you are done with them as well as with required GE classes for Lower-Division you need to get approval for your area of interest ( it’s automatically with a GPA>=3.25 as I remember). D. started taking Broadcasting classes in 4th semester.</p>
<p>Also there are some scholarships that you can get from J-school + Mark Twain Non-Res + Alumni => we pay for tuition less than we would pay for her In-State tuition in CA.</p>
<p>ok well im a little confused. On the J-school website they said a 3.0 and you’re in. They reserve the right to reject you with a 3.0 if you’re not directly admitted but they most likely won’t. Also I have heard that lower level classes are somewhat easy. Like the classes freshmen year, the required ones. Do you know how your kid did in those? Do you know how difficult it was to get a 3.0 for freshmen and sophomore year?</p>
<p>I verified with D. 3.0 is enough for directly admitted students. I’d say that her GPA improved significantly during sophomore year in comparison to freshman year But she almost didn’t take any lower level classes (at least GE, she got 36 credits for them from AP classes ) + did minor in Math starting with Calc 3. She also didn’t enjoy a lot the J-classes during first year, but once she started to take Broadcasting it changed </p>
<p>Also I’d like to add that even after 2 years of college she got a good set of skills that impressed all the interviewers for summer internship. They selected her even among the students who are seniors or even graduated from other universities with similar majors; and everybody who works on TV stations even n San Fransisco area knows Mizzou J-school :-)</p>