<p>D is a soph @ UW in Seattle. (out of state) She has lived there since drop off freshman year (deliriously happy =) )We are trying to navigate the confusing route to possible residency for tuition purposes. She has worked 25 hrs. per week, moved off campus after freshman year, worked 50-60 hours per week @ 2 jobs last summer, and kept one job @ around 25 hrs per week once school began again in the fall. (unfortunately the store where she is employed just cut the work force in half, altho she WAS one of the lucky ones kept on, her hours have been slashed). She took a 5 hr class this summer, and has been a full time student every qtr. She registered and voted in Washington. She has a Wash. State drivers lic., Her car is registered in the state and her auto insurance is in her own name. Lets see...we did not claim her as a dependent on our taxes for 1/2 of '07 or all of '08. Other small things I can think of are she is a Big Sister/Mentor, has a 3.7 GPA, etc. She has not been home for more than 2 weeks since she left - getting even a part-time job in the area we are from is nearly impossible, especially since UW's qtr system would have gotten her home in mid-June...too late for most summer job opportunities - all but 2 of the colleges in Ohio that I can think of are on the semester schedule, so she was passed up on initial interviews over Christmas/Spring Break while home freshman year.<br>
For obvious reasons due to the economy, she really needs to transfer back here for the in state tuition. We knew things wee not going to last by the end of her freshman year, we don't qualify for FA or WS, just loans, which we have done. In trying to prepare for the possibility of a job loss or move we were so hoping she would by now qualify for Washington State residency by the fall of her junior year. But alas, it's not to be - the only reason being that in order to qualify, altho she is a legal resident of the state, she's not for tuition purposes bc she has not worked 30 or more hours per week while taking 6 or more credit hours. UNGH!!! One option would be for her to take a year off and work only, or take under 6 hrs per qtr. and then reapply for residency. I am afraid of this option...too many kids simply never find their way back. Of course the way H & I see it is for her to transfer to a state school back in Ohio.
Anybody out there know anything about getting state residency for tuition purposes? (after 2 yrs of school, not b4 freshman yr) She's a resident, she pays taxes - she's worked so hard to be and stay where she is. This is so hard. I'd love any advice! Thanks, Niki</p>
<p>Who is paying for her tuition? Room & board?</p>
<p>Generally, a student must be 100% financially independent to claim residency for state tuition purposes if a parent does not live in the state. What is the COA for U-Dub OOS? $40k? If so, she'll have to show that amount of income.</p>
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D is a soph @ UW in Seattle. (out of state) She has lived there since drop off freshman year (deliriously happy =) )We are trying to navigate the confusing route to possible residency for tuition purposes.
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<p>Generally a student can NOT establish residency for instate tuition purposes if they are in the state for the purpose of attending college. In addition, unless you (the parents) move to Washington state, it is unlikely that they will change your daughter's status to instate anyway. It doesn't matter who is paying her bills. It matters that for undergrads, the state of residency is the state in which their PARENTS reside in almost all cases.</p>
<p>It is not easy for out of state students to change to instate status for tuition purposes. The reality is that you (the parents) are residents of another state and your taxes are not supporting the schools in Washington state. The folks who LIVE in Washington state are instate residents. Your daughter is not...she is just a student there.</p>
<p>Simply put...if all it took was residing in another state WHILE you were attending school AND working (yes..any amount)...there wouldn't be ANY out of state students as upperclassmen. That simply isn't the case, and neither should it be.</p>
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To be classified or reclassified as residents, for tuition and fee purposes, students must establish a bona fide domicile in the state of Washington primarily for purposes other than education for the period of one year immediately prior to classification as residents.</p>
<p>Nonresident students who are enrolled for more than 6 credits a quarter will be presumed to be in the state of Washington for primarily educational purposes. Such period of enrollment shall not be counted toward the establishment of a bona fide domicile of one year in this state unless the students prove they have, in fact, established a bona fide domicile in this state primarily for purposes other than education.
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<p>The above is off of the U Washington website. Search "residency requirement". It does not sound like your daughter can meet the residency requirement.</p>
<p>Yes...she is living and residing in Washington State BUT she is also doing so as a FULL TIME COLLEGE STUDENT (oos). </p>
<p>You can call the school and ask. I'm sure they have some form that you fill out to verify residency. I seriously doubt this will happen...unless Washington State is far more lenient than other states.</p>
<p>Actually, it used to be the case a couple of generations ago that there were no out-of-state students as upperclassmen. But the rules have been tightened a lot in the past 40 years or so. I have seen rules that state that if you enter college as a nonresident, you can never have residency status for that degree.</p>
<p>Call the residency dept and talk to them, there are some very nice people there- Dana is great. It is pretty common that a student cannot take more than half time units and and still become a resident. I can understand your concern about time off.</p>
<p>My DD took time off after undergrad and happened to become a resident of her new state and then ended up doing grad work there, she is a grad student so it was much easier.</p>
<p>What about your DD taking CC classes for under 6 units, getting GE courses under her belt, and then going back to UW? OR going part time at UW.</p>
<p>I do think that if she wants to be a resident she can become one, but not whilst she is there for the mai purpose of school.</p>
<p>Been there. </p>
<p>Understanding</a> Washington State R</p>
<p>For students 25 years of age or younger:</p>
<p>Students must show establishment of a bona fide domicile in the state of Washington if they are under the age of 25 and if their parents or court-appointed legal guardians do not reside in Washington.</p>
<p>Students must also provide documentation showing independent payments of the majority of their expenses for the previous calendar/tax year and independent payment of, or the ability to independently pay, the majority of their expenses for the current calendar/tax year. These documents include: </p>
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<li><pre><code> A copy of the students' most recent tax return.
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<li><pre><code> A copy of the parents' most recent tax return (top half of first page only),showing dependents claimed.
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<li><pre><code> Verification of year-to-date earnings (i.e. a copy of the student’s most recent pay stub with year-to-date earnings total listed).
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<p>To establish a bona fide domicile, Financially Independent students must: </p>
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<li><pre><code> Prove conclusively that they have not come to the state primarily for educational purposes. Current guidelines require that students enrolled for 7 credits or more a quarter must be employed at least 30 hours per week at a non-student job to overcome the presumption of educational purposes.
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<li><pre><code> Live in the state for 12 consecutive months as legal residents. A legal resident is an individual who has relinquished all valid legal ties (for example, driver's license, voter registration, etc.) with their former state of residence and established such ties in Washington in accordance with state and local legislation.
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<li><pre><code> Establish legal ties:
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<p>Employment.</p>
<p>Driver's license/state ID. If students possess current, out-of-state driver's licenses, they must obtain a Washington State Driver's License within 30 days of arrival. If they do not have a driver's license from any state, they must obtain a Washington State Identification Card. </p>
<p>Vehicle registration. If students own or drive vehicles in Washington, the vehicles must be registered in Washington.</p>
<p>Voter registration. If students have current, out-of-state voter's registrations, they must be registered to vote in Washington.</p>
<p>Establish a bank account in Washington. </p>
<p>Medical/automobile insurance independent of parents. </p>
<p>Be financially independent for the current and prior calendar years. </p>
<p>Examples of other factors that might help students establish proof of domicile include: disposition of property in the former state of residence, relocation of household members, participation in local community organizations, and generally becoming involved in activities that will help prove their intent to make Washington their official place of residence.</p>
<p>My kid did this. She stayed out of school, worked for 18 months with us paying none of her expenses. Established "ties" like driver's license, insurance, utilities, etc.</p>
<p>It's not a good route. Someone without a degree has to find a job that pays (and provides health insurance!) enough to live on.</p>
<p>Pay attention to this part especially"Students must also provide documentation showing independent payments of the majority of their expenses for the previous calendar/tax year and independent payment of, or the ability to independently pay, the majority of their expenses for the current calendar/tax year'"
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<p>No matter how much she loves the U, maybe it's time for her to face family realities. The rules are, basically, quit school for at least a year and a half, supporting herself, or change schools to where she gets in-state tution.</p>
<p>States set up these residency rules to save the tuition cost breaks for legitimate taxpayers whose dollars have been subsidizing the state's public higher education. Trying to meet the letter of the requirement while doing an end-run around the intent is usually futile. I know that in Georgia, receiving any financial support from outside the state disqualifies you.</p>
<p>Man! For some reason, it's the medical insurance independent of parents that seems like the REAL kicker! The Cal ones are pretty hopelss too, but I didn't see that!</p>
<p>^^medical is one of the easiest -- just purchase the campus insurance package. The real key is to prove financial independence, i.e., showing enough annual income (or trust fund balance) to pay full freight for OOS, which is $40-$46k.</p>