<p>OMG!!! Let’s compare life success rates and do a regression analysis comparing kids’ lives who got in when the admission rate was 9.6% compared to those accepted when it was 13.2%. I understand kids being on this site but I do not understand the level of parental obsession. This site has persuaded me to major in sociology. I hope that I can give up visiting this site, now that I am happily attending my chosen university, (where BTW Janet Napolitano went, showing that you can be a world leader and not an Ivy League grad).</p>
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<p>Doomed if you do and … No, there are no particular reason, and especially not a nefarious one in the case of Vandy. I started this thread and added schools as the press releases rolled in. When someone asked for more schools, I used a table I happened to have and added a few schools listed on Jacques Steinberg’s site. </p>
<p>The table I posted was not meant to be a complete and organized compilation of every school that has released data. The idea if for members to keep on posting information when they read a press release or an announcement. </p>
<p>This is not a scientific exercise.</p>
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<p>Pretty transparent remains in the eye of the beholder. An acid test for transparency is the public release of AT A MINIMUM the latest Common Data Set and the historical surveys. </p>
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<p>Keep digging. In 2006, Columbia still reported its top 10 percent as 85% and the number jumped from one year to another. The numbers you quoted above are simply … fantastic, in all meanings of the term, and more than probably, the result of selective and creative accounting of reported rankings.</p>
<p>[Stanford</a> and Duke Accepted How Many? Colleges Report 2011 Admission Figures - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/admit-stats-2011/]Stanford”>Stanford and Duke Accepted How Many? Colleges Report 2011 Admission Figures - The New York Times)</p>
<p>usualgirl,</p>
<p>You are at exceptionally fine school and in good company, whether you are attending the school she went to for undergrad or grad.</p>
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<p>Is there any entity that can gather stats on # apps/student? If that increases, selectivity also has an apparent increase.</p>
<p>Usual Girl: "What impact does this have on the other, too lowly to be mentioned, schools that we mere mortals applied to? "</p>
<p>Ah, “mere mortals”… On Olympus the Gods attend to other Gods, and if generous with a legion of demigods. Few, other than Zeus and Aphrodite, deign more than rarely squander their magnificence on mere mortality.</p>
<pre><code> Mere mortals, after all, are not so good at offering proper tribute to the deserving Gods. Sometimes, they even go so far as to care more about the educational quality of a University than the quantity of applicants scorned or welcomed. Foolish, foolish, mere Mortals.
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<p>So I’m looking through this for some reasons for the huge rush of applications. Are there that many more kids? Are kids now applying to 20 schools instead of 6? Are there more internationals, or students with lower stats who might not have applied other years? Are these the same kids all applying to the same top schools? Are these schools all going to have to massively go to their wait lists? Any ideas? What is so special about this year?</p>
<p>In response to USUALGIRL Quote : OMG!!! Let’s compare life success rates and do a regression analysis comparing kids’ lives …</p>
<p>Well said. All this can do is create more paranoia among the future classes, and as you can tell it’s only getting worse not any better. Any responsible parent will hopefully use this only for what it’s worth and not drive the kids into desperation. Enjoy your kids ! let them smile, and have some fun while they are still with you !! </p>
<p>Also hope some sense will prevail in the brilliant minds at the top colleges one of these days, and will seriously rethink to stop publishing meaningless admission stats…rather focus on getting to the real process of education/research going, and publish real meaningful stats of how their college changed lives… a real sense of pride & accomplishment. Don’t ask me what those real ones are, but heck if you are an Ivy League - am sure you can figure that out?.</p>
<p>I see it as a self-perpetuating vicious circle. Students observe that it is very difficult to gain acceptance to a top school. So, they hedge their bets by applying to all of them. You will generally find more top students with 15+ applications than “B” students. The colleges are flooded with an abundance of well-qualified students - so they deny and waitlist thousands that could have been admitted had the application volume been more reasonable. The next class witnesses the resulting bloodbath and decides that they need to apply to even more schools, and so on.</p>
<p>So - what I see is not that there are more kids - but that more kids are applying to 12-15 schools and up.</p>
<p>I am fervently hoping that the changes for next year - UVA adding early action and Harvard and Princeton also adding an early option, will relieve a little bit of this pressure and that a trickle-down effect will ensue. One can hope.</p>
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<p>excellent point</p>
<p>had a 17 percent admit rate.</p>
<p>A quick question: Do colleges have access to the list of schools that kids apply to. I’m thinking of those apps done using common app. I know some ask what other schools are being applied to, but kids may only self-report some of them. Just wondering. Don’t know if it means anything to the ADCOMs or not.</p>
<p>Hi all. I am a first time poster, first time parent with a kid going off to college. My son got into the University of Michigan’s LSA Honor’s Program as well as the University of Virginia. Waitlisted at Northwestern. To help us make a more-informed decision, I would love to hear your feed back about several concerns.</p>
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<li><p>He wants to go on to law school. Is one school stronger than the other from a law school admissions point of view? Which has a stronger Liberal Arts program?</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan is big. Do students get lost? Does the Honor’s Program really make the school smaller and do students have good access to professors?</p></li>
<li><p>Virginia is smaller, but southern. I would say my son was more of an independent thinker. Living in Texas at times has been a challenge. Will he find a rigid mindset at Virginia? Is there an overriding sense of affluence? He’s not a country club kid either.</p></li>
<li><p>Northwestern is smaller than Michigan and more midwestern than Virginia. We are originally from the midwest. Might be the best fit, but putting our eggs in the waitlist basket is a bit risky. </p></li>
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<p>All are fantastic schools. I am just looking for some guidance towards good fit. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Are there that many more kids? </p>
<p>not really, not that many more in the past 3 years than 5 years ago
Are kids now applying to 20 schools instead of 6? </p>
<p>yes
Are there more internationals,
yes
or students with lower stats who might not have applied other years?
yes,
Are these the same kids all applying to the same top schools?
in many cases ,yes. USNWR rankings are the first place many top students or international students look.
Are these schools all going to have to massively go to their wait lists?
not likely , as that has not been the case in recent years.</p>
<p>just update the table if you have new stats! any info on Carnegie Mellon?</p>
<p>and to menloparkmom: I know a lot of kids from my school who applied to most if not all of the top 20s, plus gtown, berkeley, ucla, and cmu.</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon (CMU) admitted 5,023 out of 16,525 for a 30 percent admit rate.</p>
<p>^and i got waitlisted but accepted at vandy?? weird</p>
<p>Any stats for Vassar and Hamilton</p>
<p>Hamilton 1,408 5,264 26.8%
Vassar 1,779 7,985 22.3%</p>