Advice for Princeton Hopefuls

<p>Congrats to those who got accepted / are attending Princeton! :)</p>

<p>So, what's the secret? ;)
What did you have to do in order to get in?
Does being a URM really make a difference?
Are the essays the deciding factor?
Are the EC's really important?
Do the short answer questions (i.e. your favorite book, your favorite word...)
play a large role in the admissions process?</p>

<p>Please feel free to post any advice you have regarding applications for us rising high school seniors.</p>

<p>Thanks! :)</p>

<p>From our school's IB program 3 were accepted. 2 regular decision, 1 from waitlist. All 3 were URM (school is 80% minority). The one waitlisted had the highest SAT/ACT (2360/36) but the least ECs and lowest GPA (still stratospheric). The one with the highest GPA had the lowest SAT/ACT and weighty ECs. The other one was best all around (just slightly lower GPA and also great ECs). All had taken at least 10 APs and many dual enrollment classes. FinAid was almost non-existent for 2 of them and chose not to go to Princeton.</p>

<p>Thanks, J'adoube!
Anyone else?</p>

<p>this probably won't help you, but at a really difficult school like princeton, EVERYTHING matters, also, i'm pretty sure princeton has a extreme legacy thing, (a ton of legacy students get in). just work your butt off on your application. good luck!</p>

<p>In regards to legacies, the acceptance rate for them is usually between 30% and 40%, and they make up around 15% of the entering class.</p>

<p>About the legacy thing, it might be worth noting that legacies do come from well-educated parents who already had what it took to get into Princeton originally. It definitely helps, but it's difficult to note exactly to what extent it makes up the difference of that 30%-40% acceptance rate. Maybe a lot, maybe just a moderate amount.</p>

<p>Like superstarpie said, everything does matter. They want the strongest, most well-rounded students who can contribute to a diverse environment. A superstar in math may have a very difficult time if he can't get his SAT CR score into the 600+ range. But similarly, the student who does very well in every subject will almost surely not get in if the admissions council can't find anything interesting about them: bland essays, typical ECs, no real passion exhibited. They want to see students who are strong at academics, who can do things besides their classes quite well (clubs, volunteering, and/or general hobbies like dance), and who have leadership. And they need to show passion. The application has enough room to exhibit how much you care for what you do with the letters of recommendation, essays, and extra-curriculars/volunteer lists. Essays probably are one of the most significant factors: my guess is it ends up being the decision maker pretty often. But I could be wrong.</p>

<p>URM is just another part of the whole aspect. I don't think the school uses quotas as I know other top schools don't, but they do consider it as both part of the applicant's background and a part of the diversity the applicant can bring to the campus. It does makes a difference, but probably not as much as some people fear it might. Don't stress out too much if you're Asian: there are plenty of Asians who got into Princeton :)</p>

<p>I don't know how much those short answers matter. My guess is it's just another way to look at the applicant (this is a very holistic process).</p>

<p>Anyway, I hope that all helped. It's really about the entire application: they don't look at bits and pieces to find the one thing they want; they use all these aspects of the application to get a good picture of who you are overall as a person. Clearly academics will come first, but because the applicant pool at Princeton is so strong, this will not ensure one's acceptance. You need to show passion, communicate interesting thoughts effectively, and show you're overall a person they want to have on campus. Vague, unfortunately. My only advice is to show that you're strong academically and can, well, do everything, and make sure you can show that you're passionate about something--doesn't matter what, and don't at all be afraid if it's something entirely nonacademic. Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks for starting this thread, calculus09 and thanks for all the helpful responses :)</p>

<p>You're welcome, Mishaal!</p>

<p>Some people will probably disagree with me on this, but I actually think at many selective colleges, interviews are more important than they are made out to be. I think it's at least safe to say that it helps to be a good conversationalist who has had interesting life experiences and speaks passionately and articulately about a few activities or interests. I worry about all the applicants with fabulous scores and grades but little to no social skills... (As in, I would imagine that even if they are awesome people, their lack of normal social skills could hold them back. Note all the chances posters who claim not to be trolls and are often incredibly arrogant and abrasive...)</p>

<p>Sorry if that didn't make sense, and hope it helps in some small way. Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone who responded, and calculus for strating the thread!</p>