<p>application process wise, what do i (or any international student) have to do differently? additional forms? more essays?</p>
<p>it's the same thing...u do things the same way as americans do..just that ur application will be reviewd and will be compared amidst different pool of applicants (in your case it's international students not seeking aid)....and like I said..that pool is usually pretty small...</p>
<p>ok, thank you </p>
<p>by the way, congrats on Lafayette, i'm assuming that you're an international student . . . best of luck!</p>
<p>Thanks :)</p>
<p>Yeah..I am an intel!!!</p>
<p>Wow shail you're a lucky one. My school gave me lots of fund but far from meeting my needs by 100%. In fact, my parents will have to pay more than their annual income combined together per year.</p>
<p>Yeah...I was indeed the lucky one...many a person will be surprised to know that Lafayette provided me a full ride aid... :D</p>
<p>Don't take the TOEFL if you got a good CR score. It's a waste of $150 and several hours of time. Use the money to pay for college (maybe a book) and the time to write your essays.</p>
<p>Unless you apply to a need-blind school, there shouldn't be quotas against international students living on an H-4. Need-blind schools might have quotas for internationals that need financial aid, and admissions don't know who needs financial aid or not from the international pool. There is a quota (I think) for those needing an I-20 and apply for a F-1 visa, but the H-4 visa should preclude the necessity for an I-20. Chances should be similar to those who are domestic applicants since you aren't requesting financial aid. For schools low on international students, your chances might even be higher.</p>
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<p>There are many more if you do your research well: Williams, Connecticut College, WashU, etc.</p>
<p>And even if they are not need-blind, you never know. They might admit you. I got into Wesleyan [non need-blind] with even far more aid than I got at William, which is need blind.</p>
<p>Where are you going next fall Tsubie-chan?</p>
<p>Wash U isn't even need-blind to domestic students, much less international students. I'm pretty sure Connecticut College isn't need-blind either, considering its small endowment. Need-blind for internationals means international applicants who can pay will be as disadvantaged as international applicants who can't pay. Given that the OP can pay, applying to non-need-blind schools would be advantageous.</p>
<p>Since the OP is interested in engineering, I recommend Olin College. She'll be a domestic applicant for Olin since she doesn't need an I-20 or financial aid beyond the Olin Scholarship.</p>
<p>None, students on a H-4 visa have to apply as international students at (almost?) all colleges (most colleges consider everyone who is not US citizen or permanent resident (some add Canadian or Mexican citizens) international). And I would be curious where on the Olin website it says that they only consider you an international applicant if you need an I-20? I cannot find a clear statement about that, but their admission inquiry form says:
"Citizenship Status: - U.S. Citizen or Permanent Resident - International Student", which would make me believe that H-4 visa holders would be considered international as well.</p>
<p>By the way, I would not recommend going to college on a H-4 visa because one is not allowed to work at all (not even unpaid internships during the summer). Graduating from college without any work experience won't get you a good job, especially not if your employer would have to sponsor you for a working visa.</p>
<p>Hmm, someone needs a work permit here. And b@r!um, internships are unpaid??? So if you want to do an internship over the summer, your folks have to provide the $$$ for all the expenditure you incur including room and board and traveling fees???</p>
<p>The current and former director of admissions told me about the I-20 stuff at Olin.</p>
<p>People on H-4 visas can apply for a work permit, which allows them to work over the summer and off-campus. I don't think it's very hard to get. The only problem with the H-4 visa is if the H-1b parent decides to leave the country. In that case, the student can apply for a F-1 visa.</p>
<p>Tsubie-chan: some internships are unpaid, but internships in engineering are generally paid. But if you do have an unpaid one, yes your family would have to come up with the fee (unless you find a fellowship from the school or elsewhere for uncompensated summer work)</p>
<p>There are no work permits for H-4 visa holders. Every website I have found so far says that H-4 visa holders cannot accept work under any circumstances. If you know a source that says differently, would you mind sharing it with us?</p>
<p>Olin is sort of a special case because 2007-08 is the first academic year for which they are allowed to issue I-20s. Before they could only accept applicants who did not need a student visa.</p>
<p>i'll get my green card probably during the summer (2008), if i was accepted under international status at a college, would they take back the acceptance after i get my green card? (since they can't put me under international in their statistics reports anymore, or can they?)</p>
<p>None:
"There is a quota (I think) for those needing an I-20 and apply for a F-1 visa, but the H-4 visa should preclude the necessity for an I-20."</p>
<p>what is I-20? what is F-1?
sorry, you guys are gonna have to dumb down this VISA lingo for me, lol
i'm totally unfamiliar with this</p>
<p>An I-20 is a form that you need to apply for a F-1 student visa.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/employment-authorization-document.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/employment-authorization-document.html</a>
<a href="http://www.immspec.com/employment-authorization-document.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.immspec.com/employment-authorization-document.htm</a></p>
<p>H-4 can apply for Employment Authorization Document (work permit) after they have submitted their I-485 Adjustment to Permanent Resident Status, which is the final step that must be approved before the green card. I'm guessing the OP has filed for this since she has an estimated date for receiving the green card (don't count on receiving it at that time). I have an EAD and got an internship (with stipend) last summer as a high school student. Basically, the H-4 visaholder can attain a work permit only if the family has applied for permanent residence and is several steps into the process. Otherwise, you can't.</p>
<p>No college will rescind acceptance just because you got a green card during the summer. However, do disclose the immigration status in the "extra information" section of the application.</p>
<p>i'm not worried about my work permit or permanent resident stuff (that stuff will get sorted out soon) i'm just wondering if i have a chance at top colleges with my status situation, and status changing situation, i understanding now that not applying for aid will help my chances, but my ultimate question here is whether or not my chances are LOWER than that of asian americans</p>
<p>and . . . maybe no one knows the exact answer, but it'll be really helpful to my application process if i understand more, i'm just looking for opinions and perspectives, whatever you think, please let me know</p>
<p>thanks to all of you guys for your informative responses!</p>
<p>Hey None, WashU and ConnColl are need blind for internationals. WashU doesn't give much aid, and even on the website, they admit they can't meet every need, but that doesn't affect your chances for admission. I got in twice without aid. I also applied to ConnColl and got a generous package.</p>