<p>Thanks mombee!</p>
<p>I have to agree. everything I read said that graduates who are discharged because of the RIF and no other reason will not have to repay their education. DH said he would retain a good attorney if the situation arose</p>
<p>Historically, when RIF’s have come about in the AF before the board meets they allow the military member on the hit list to walk away no penalty. In 92 they gave even a nice chunk of change to many of them if they voluntarily walked away. If you met the board the paycheck was basically your leave accrued cashed in.</p>
<p>The guys that we knew who washed out and were involuntarily separated never owed a dime back. The only way I can see them saying he MIGHT have to payback is if they offer him a different field and he turns it down, thus he did not fulfill his commitment. However, with the RIF coming about and the pipeline slowing down, I think it will be more like it was in 88 and they just say adios.</p>
<p>I am holding out for a fat severence check. 
(yeah, right) Then he would probably turn around and go to law school. He did call this morning and was in rather good spirits. Maybe he has made a decision that he is not ready to share just yet. I also remember him saying something about his wing commander trying hard to get him reassigned, I imagine he would not turn anything down at this point. But today, it was just general chit chat, nothing about the white elephant, but it was nice to hear him not so angry like he was last week. And always nice just to talk to my kid.</p>
<p>Actually Bullet’s cousin got medically discharged from the Army a couple of yrs ago (surprise, so surprise he had heat stroke while riding in a tank wearing body armor in July in Iraq) He used his gi bill to go to law school and now he is a tax attorney for the DOJ.</p>
<p>He was devastated when he left, but yrs later it no longer stings.</p>
<p>I am glad to hear he sounds upbeat, I am sure once he knows anything he will inform you. Typically it happens very quickly because they know it is not emotionally good for them to stay. The guys we knew moved within a couple of a weeks. They had orders within days. It is good that the wing king is looking out for him because he will have more pull getting him a good assignment from AFPC than your son.</p>
<p>In the case of a couple of our friends they were given options, so that maybe why he is upbeat. He might like the idea of his next assignment, but doesn’t want to jinx it yet until he has orders in hand. Afterall it is not hard to find a better base than Columbus or Laughlin :p</p>
<p>You see there is always a silver lining in the clouds.</p>
<p>He says he hates mississippi. lol Also, he was told no GI bill for academy graduates, they have already gotten a free education. so to speak…</p>
<p>Yep, many people feel that way, but they would probably be glad to be there than at Laughlin.</p>
<p>Maybe he’ll get the one base assignment that people would kill for HICKHAM or Elmendorf. Hopefully he won’t get hit with Canon or Almogordo.</p>
<p>The post-911 GI bill does apply to academy grads, but the clock for eligibility only starts after the initial service commitment, IIRC.</p>
<p>That’s interesting because then to me it is another reason to get your Masters completed ASAP since the AF will pay 75% and it would seem that means you are ahead of the game.</p>
<p>how long do i need to serve after my initial commitment to become eligible for the new GI Bill?</p>
<p>The post 9/11 GI Bill has varying levels of eligibility.</p>
<p>BASICALLY…</p>
<p>To qualify you must serve at least 90 days of active duty. Then it varies: more active duty, more levels of funding.</p>
<p>Bottom line…3 years of AD will give you 100% qualification. BUT DON’T THINK THAT MEANS YOU GET IT ALL FOR FREE…</p>
<p>You really need to go to: [U.S</a>. Department of Veterans Affairs](<a href=“http://www.va.gov%5DU.S”>http://www.va.gov) and read about it there.</p>
<p>Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83</p>
<p>
Just to clarify, this is in response to tennis’ question. Apparently, for a few Navy cases, the only required 5 yrs of initial obligation for aviators even though their legal initial commitment was, in fact, roughly 11 yrs.</p>
<p>An update, was up for RIF and after 2 weeks of waiting for their decision, they pulled his file for furthur evaluation. He was already making plans to have us help him move home and was researching graduate schools. Then out of the blue, he got their decision, and they transferred him to the UAV program. He is thrilled and I am relieved.</p>
<p>NO SURPRISE here!</p>
<p>But, CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM AND YOU!!!</p>
<p>The AF is hurting for UAS personnel…heck, even this old officer was asked if he wanted to return to active duty for a 3-year tour! </p>
<p>Glad to hear the happy ending!</p>
<p>Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83</p>
<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Potter was given a 92T pilot slot and all she wanted was to fly UAS. Then she was DQ’d for height and left in limbo for an AFSC…It bites when the AF is short on volunteers and will lock you up in a dead-end AFSC (Missiles etc.) and they new all along how tall you were.</p>
<p>ds52262,</p>
<p>What year is your cadet or has she graduated? Can you elaborate on more of what you posted above for some of us non-AF people? Thanks.</p>
<p>My d. and her friends have (09) been enjoying their jobs at some of the bases that they least expected, shall we say! She has been to the base in Biloxi MS for training and she
really loved that beautiful area. (the economy isn’t super strong yet) She really likes her home base in Montgomery, a lot more than she expected, and her former room mate is thoroughly enjoying herself in NM. </p>
<p>Both of them have enjoyed the many interesting people that have come or passed through their bases for their AF work. </p>
<p>The night they found out their base assignments- well, I know mine was sobbing! All I could say, in between the sobbing, was “I’m so proud of you, you are beginning such a wonderful, bright future” and all she did was cry. </p>
<p>She has since decided that she now loves it, and loves the south! The AF provides so many opportunities for different trainings and experiences and I think you stay busy, so you don’t get bored. They are giving her a lot of different duties, and this works well for someone with a lot of energy. She runs in the local running races, coaches, today she was judging a dog show (?) at the base, takes care of unwanted animals, volunteers with the vets that come to the base. </p>
<p>I am amazed at all the things they throw at her, and she really is just enjoying them all, and enjoying the variety I think.</p>
<p>Aggie -> Potter is a Firstie this year. She knew a waiver would be required, and the flight surgeon who did her grad physical laughed at her. She is 5’ tall and 5’3" is the min. She made clear all along she only wanted UAS, and everyone has been “well that shouldn’t be a problem”, until the flight surgeon. She was even allowed to get eye surgery in the first group.</p>
<p>Are UAV and UAS the same thing?</p>
<p>Yes they are the same thing.</p>