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<p>Nope - just simply stating that it’s not right to only look at those few negative statements when there are so many positive ones out there as well</p>
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<p>And those who are “blindly focusing only on the bad and not allow any room for the positive?”</p>
<p>You guys need to learn how to use the forum’s quotation feature. It’s [ quote ] insert text [ /quote ] without the spaces. Your welcome.</p>
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<p>I agree. Which is why going to Penn State is a bad idea. Why should you have to try so hard just to make it work? It’s not like its the only college in the country.</p>
<p>The problem that entering students at Penn State will have is not at having difficulty concentrating in the classroom, but rather it showing a serious lapse in judgement or character for deciding to go there, which may haunt you in the future. Employer: “oh, so you went to Penn State from 2012-2016? Thanks, we’ll give you a call.”</p>
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<p>Thank you for the tutorial.</p>
<p>I absolutely DO need to learn to use the quote key. Maybe tomorrow.</p>
<p>Taking students to task for the ill advised and immature, uneducated things they say is a job requiring overtime in any college town. I don’t need to take them to task, nor do you, nor does the University. I’m confident they’ll come around, and figure life out, as almost everyone does by 22 or 23. And if they don’t, well, they don’t. The world is chock full of immature, uneducated people who shoot off their mouths, I don’t need to make it my job to correct them all. In the meantime, I can overlook comments that are meanspirited and ill-informed masquerading as The God’s Honest Truth. </p>
<p>The cookie was AWESOME!</p>
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This is seriously one of the most unfounded, laughable, statements I have read anywhere on this entire situation. Choosing to go to PSU in no way shows ‘a serious lapse in judgement or character’. PSU will continue to be sought out by recruiters just as before. If students have the qualities they are looking for their prospects will be no different then they were in 2009. There will be an exceptionally minute group of people who will be biased. That they would hold such prejudice is a red flag for someone you don’t want to work for or be associated with professionally.</p>
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<p>You are a pip, aren’t you? I shall add you to my ignore list along with your little friends, asap.</p>
<p>PSU will recover in 6-7 years. The football team will win enough games to get into a bowl, the $$$ will be flowing again. The media story will be the “redemption at PSU”.
No one will remember or care about the victims and the football culture will return (as it does at all big programs). Those involved in the scandal will sleep in the beds they made. It will be difficult to be a student at PSU (or parent of a student) for the next several years as more bad news and bad PR is coming with litagation. Students will still receive a quality education and jobs after graduation. They will need a thick skin and have to put up with jabs and comments about their school for many years. That’s just the way it is.</p>
<p>It’s never going to recover. Just tear down the school already!</p>
<p>I don’t have a dog in this fight (D chose Michigan over PSU last year before the scandel broke) but I will put my two cents in.<br>
- It is ludicrous to think that any employer would hold going to PSU against a student. I have done recruiting for my company and that would never possibly be an issue.
- In fact, if the student’s resume showed that he/she took positive action to help restore PSU’s reputation, that would be a major plus in my hiring decision.
- On the other hand, if I saw that an applicant particapated in a riot or posted some derogatory disgusting comment on a message board arguing that a football player changing schools is equivalent to a child being raped, that applicant would be out the door in a heart beat.
- It is unfair that current students have to suffer because the leaders of the university were more interested in covering up child rape than they were in stoppint it, but there is no other way. If institutions suffer no institutional consequences (which the students will bear), future leaders at other schools may decide the risk of a cover-up is worth the benefit of not having dirty laundry exposed.
- The old saying that “the cover-up was worse than the crime,” does not apply here. The crime WAS WAY WORSE than the cover-up. But that being said, a 13 year cover-up is pretty bad.
- I don’t think the NCAA sanctions will have much impact on in-state students who chooses to go to PSU (I’m talking general students not players). While there may be a few who will choose Pitt over PSU so they can have a more enjoyable college footbal experience, most will probably still find PSU to be a superior school.
- There will be probably be a small drop-off in the quality of OOS students. While football at a BCS school is only a small part of the experience, it is not nothing. I can certainaly see some OOS students choosing Ohio State or other big football school over PSU for the next few years.</p>
<p>MichorPlan2 - Thank you for your comments.</p>
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<p>If only it were true … </p>
<p>In this case, the cover-up enabled many additional occurrences of the same crime. The scope of this institutional dysfunction is breathtaking, and the needless damage is incredible.</p>
<p>It’s a sad fact that the actions of a few can cause misery for many when the NCAA is involved. A coach who violates recruiting rules, a booster who puts the star running back on a secret payroll, etc. can all cause NCAA sanctions that affect innocent players (past and present), not to mention the entire student population, alumni, and other stakeholders.</p>
<p>In this case, the collusion of university officials and the coach in the coverup was particularly damning and resulted in the exceptionally harsh penalties. I do feel sorry for all the students, athletes, and others who had no inkling that this behavior had occurred and are now collateral damage. I’m sure some of the insensitive comments by students don’t reflect any sympathy for child molesters but come from frustration about being blindsided by the entire affair.</p>
<p>As others have pointed out, we should be most sorry for the victims, particularly those who might have avoided their experience had the university acted swiftly and with transparency.</p>
<p>an interesting commentary from a Penn State alum</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State’s public acts of contrition ? NewsWorks](<a href=“http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/component/flexicontent/item/41905-penn-states-public-acts-of-contrition&Itemid=219]Penn”>http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/component/flexicontent/item/41905-penn-states-public-acts-of-contrition&Itemid=219)</p>
<p>What is so unfortunate is the stereotype that has developed about Penn State. The assumptions that all PSU students only care about football are so wrong. Yes, football has been overblown and excessive for years at the school. Yes, there are some immature students who get carried away with football. But students come to PSU for many, many reasons - not just for the football. Those reasons - the academics, campus, social scene, opportunities, etc. - will continue to draw students.</p>
<p>We happened to be visiting with one of our sons for “Spend a Summer Day” for prospective students on Monday when the announcement came out. The mood was subdued. There were very few students by the empty space where the statue came down. Some people looked distressed, but nothing extreme. Business as usual, except for all of the reporters floating around.</p>
<p>Our son is still considering PSU - because it offers a range of academic programs and some very specific programs not seen at many schools, it has a beautiful campus, great school spirit, and many opportunities. It also has a lot of flaws, as do most schools. AND it is less expensive for in-state students than many other private schools. That is the reality and why many students go there. They pick PSU over Pitt or Temple because they want a beautiful, rural campus, and there are no other in-state schools that are comparable academically.</p>
<p>My only concern is the financial effect on the school. Hopefully the academic programs will not suffer cutbacks as a result of losses due to this. Otherwise, the football program will take on less of an influence for a while, and hopefully the administrators will be less corrupt. And the students may take on more of a collective interest in issues of social justice.</p>
<p>I’m no longer a PSU student, but I just want to throw in my 2 cents. It’s amazing how many people associate the student body as “supporters of child molesters” and such nonsense. One cannot judge everyone for the actions of a few. ALL of my wonderful friends I’ve made there did not fit the stereotype of the typical Penn State student. There are so many great people there, it’s frustrating seeing outsiders group them altogether.</p>
<p>I even have a Penn State sticker on the back of my car because I am PROUD of going there my freshman year, and guess what happened…it got vandalized. Someone in my neighborhood wrote, “I Suck D*cks” on my windshield with removable paint. It didn’t anger me when I saw this, but I just felt bad at how ignorant people are. It amazes me how many people don’t stop to think, but instead, they just jump on a bandwagon and conform to what the media has made the ENTIRE school out to be. And just to throw out there, I didn’t transfer out because of the scandal like most people love to claim; it was for academic and location preferences.</p>
<p>I will always support the academics and the wonderful people at Penn State. Shame on those who immediately dismiss the entire student body as supporters of child molestation. Completely untrue.</p>
<p>Quote: Someone in my neighborhood wrote, “I Suck D*cks” on my windshield with removable paint.</p>
<p>That’s really sick. I wanted to buy a Penn State sticker but my mom fears that my car will also be vandalized. All of the people out there who are hating on the students really need to get their priorities straight. YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK !!! </p>
<p>Out of curiosity DJ, where did you decide to go?</p>
<p>DJ’s other posts state that he is transferring to USC and he gives his reasons are in this post:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1343695-universities-good-reach-me.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1343695-universities-good-reach-me.html</a></p>
<p>The thing about his car being vandalised really sucks. I don’t condone that. I may ■■■■■ online (or so you think) but I would never even think of doing anything as callous as that. There are a lot of idiots out there.</p>
<p>That said, he will be better off at USC. USC is a great private school. I read somewhere they had a 18% acceptance rate last year and it’s one of the top 10 dream schools for students.</p>