Aid to internationals

<p>which universities have the highest rate of giving scholaship to international need-aid students?</p>

<p>There aren’t very many universities that give need based aid to international students the same as with U.S. citizens. Most of these schools that DO are hightly competitive (think Ivy League and equivalent, and some of the more competitive LACs). Do you have specific schools that you are interested in? If so, you can find this info on the school websites.</p>

<p>And remember too…some of these generous schools are NOT need blind for admissions for international students…so your ability to pay will be considered when your application is considered.</p>

<p>A small number of schools may have the “highest rate” of giving aid to int’ls, but that won’t tell you much.</p>

<p>A school can say that they give money to 100% of int’ls with need, but they may only give each int’l student a tiny amount. </p>

<p>Another school may say that it gives money to 10% of int’ls with need, but they give large amounts to those 10%.</p>

<p>Also, any school that gives aid to int’ls is going to look at your family’s income and assets. Schools do not give aid to those who don’t have need. Your family may say that it can only pay $10k per year, but the college may say that they should pay $20k.</p>

<p>How much will your family pay each year? Does your family have a good income and assets? </p>

<p>What are your stats?</p>

<p>my current stats are not very amazing-sat score:1710(which i obviously plan to raise in oct);a lot of volunteer work particularly in a spiritual org;virtually no ecs(i used to do a lot of good photography if tht can be put on the app as an ec);good essays and i think i was in the top 20% of class 12th(senior year is wht you guys call)…and yea thts it!
and the average fees of a US university being 35000$ +living cost i d need some aid</p>

<p>I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but full ride merit scholarships or close to it are not all that common. Typically they are HIGHLY competitive. At this point, you MIGHT get some merit aid at some school here but not likely enough to cover your costs of attendance or even close to it. I would be giving the SAME info to a U.S. citizen applying for merit aid…and it’s even harder for international students.</p>

<p>Do you have other options for college attendance?</p>

<p>check ave maria university or university of dallas</p>

<p>I don’t think your scores are high enough for a full ride scholarship as an international.</p>

<p>I agree with mom2collegekids. Even if you improved your SAT scores, your profile isn’t amazing (sorry).</p>

<p>Why don’t you just go to a cheaper school? Or look at student loans if you really want to come to the US…</p>

<p>How much can your family contribute? If the answer is “nothing,” then you will have virtually no chance to go to school here.</p>

<p>If you increase your scores, you’ll have a better chance. Sign up for both the Oct and Nov SAT tests and sign up for the Sept and Oct ACT tests and study, study, study! </p>

<p>Right now you have virtually no chance for either a full-ride or even a big scholarship at any school. </p>

<p>What is the breakdown of your SAT?</p>

<p>This website has a list of schools that give good financial aid to internationals (sadly, there is no information about the % of demonstrated need they meet on average):</p>

<p>[eduPASS</a> | Financial Aid for International Students | Schools with Aid for Undergraduates](<a href=“http://www.edupass.org/finaid/undergraduate.phtml]eduPASS”>Schools with Financial Aid for International Students - eduPASS)</p>

<p>As a student at a non-American school that regularly sends a lot of people to top American universities, I can safely tell you that it’s not as hard to get financial aid as an international as some of the people here seem to think. However, you do need to beef up your stats.</p>

<p>Others can correct me if I’m wrong, but the following seems to be true for int’ls.</p>

<p>1) Only a small number of very high stats int’ls with big need can get into the few schools that meet need to int’ls. </p>

<p>2) It’s difficult for any int’l whose family can’t contribute anything to study here. There will probably always be some costs that a school isn’t going to cover. ( Don’t know how much “full need” schools provide for int’l travel or the frequency of such trips. Some schools might be better than others.)</p>

<p>3) Students whose families can contribute a good part of their education costs have a better chance to study here.</p>

<p>4) Students who have great need, good but not super stats, have little chance to study here.</p>

<p>5) Most int’ls who study here are full-pay or near full pay.</p>

<p>What are your SATs on the 1600 scale? Many schools do not use the writing in consideration, so if the 2 part is high, that may make a bit of a difference. Also, is your math score high, making you an engineering/math catch?</p>

<p>Look for Momfromtexas’s thread on full ride scholarships. There are schools out there that are willing to pay for students that fit a certain profile. They are not the name schools that everyone knows. But the money is there, and they are possibilities. </p>

<p>As for the schools that are known for giving internationals the most money, those are the schools that take the top kids, international or US. Admissions alone is very competitive and is the big issue. Your test scores are not up there to make that a realistic possibility, though you can look into the schools, and if it is the verbal part of the test that is an issue, a high TOEFEL score might mitagate that.</p>

<p>Does anyone know what are the least requirements for a full ride internationals? How to apply for and what needs to be prepare?</p>

<p>^^^
There isn’t a minimum number that we can give that would assure an in’tl that he would get a “free ride”.</p>

<p>Some int’ls with high stats and low income get accepted to some elites who give them great financial aid to meet need.</p>

<p>Some int’ls with high stats get accepted to the few schools that give big merit to int’ls. </p>

<p>However, an int’l with perfect stats and a high income may not get a cent from the schools that don’t give merit money.</p>

<p>I like this site because it provides an “average award” as well as other useful statistics: <a href=“http://new.oacac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/intfinaid09.pdf[/url]”>http://new.oacac.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/intfinaid09.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>But it’s important for international students seeking financial aid to fully realize how tough it is to get it, even at the most generous institutions. If you are an international applying for aid, you should expect to have a profile (grades, test scores, etc.) that is significantly better than the median at that college.</p>

<p>It will also work in your favor if you come from a country that is not represented—or at least not OVERrepresented–in a college’s applicant pool. </p>

<p>Of course, being great in a sport won’t hurt either :wink: (but won’t be a deal-breaker if you’re not).</p>

<p>I wonder what if an intl student is accepted under a binding plan and gets some kind of fin aid, which is still not good enough, what would he need to do?
or a college just won’t accept him in the first place if it’s not ready to meet his full need?</p>

<p>If financial aid is a consideration, unless you know you will get the aid you need, do NOT apply early decision. It’s possible to get accepted without getting the aid you need because the college – not your parents – determine your financial need. Most colleges also don’t promise to meet the full demonstrated financial need of their students.</p>

<p>Sorry, but I disagree with Northstarmom. If you are an international student needing aid, it’s fine to apply to your top-choice college via ED. In fact, it’s often recommended. (More on that in a minute.)</p>

<p>If you don’t get the money you require, you can withdraw from the “binding” ED commitment without penalty, but you have to do so promptly. (In other words, you can’t wait until you have other offers to compare.)</p>

<p>BUT, you should NOT apply Early Decision if you are expecting to get an unrealistic amount of aid. In your application, you will be required to state the amount that your family can afford to pay and to provide documentation that those funds are available. Thus your “demonstrated need” will be the difference between what your family can pay and the annual cost of attendance. If you feel that this figure is not sufficient to enable you to enroll, then ED is NOT right for you. (There is no guarantee that you will actually be offered the amount you expect, but at least you should start this process with a reasonable expectation. Note also that colleges can have a tough time doing an accurate “needs analysis” for international students who come from varying backgrounds and economies.)</p>

<p>But, as we all know, it’s very difficult for international students to secure financial aid, and the bar tends to be set very high. Many colleges, especially the smaller ones, may not accept multiple high-need applicants from the same country (unless, of course, all are extremely strong). Thus, if you have honed in on a top-choice college, and this college generally offers financial aid to internationals that is comparable to what you require, then you will be best served by applying early. This will send a message that proclaims, “You are my first-choice college.” </p>

<p>If you wait until the Regular Decision pool, you may find that another applicant from your country who has high need has already been admitted via ED, and this could possibly diminish your chances. </p>

<p>You should NOT apply ED if:</p>

<p>**-Your junior grades were not as strong as they should have been or you got off to a poor start in the first quarter of your senior year</p>

<p>-Your ED college doesn’t offer as much aid to internationals as you require or only meets a minimal percentage of need</p>

<p>-You expect more money from a college than your demonstrated need is likely to suggest you really require**</p>

<p>But, if none of these apply to you, then I recommend an ED application to a top-choice college, with the understanding that, as painful as it may be, you do have the option to withdraw if your aid is insufficient.</p>

<p>Northstarmom, Sally_Rubenstone thanks for your replies!</p>

<p>“BUT, you should NOT apply Early Decision if you are expecting to get an unrealistic amount of aid.”</p>

<p>What would be an unrealistic amount?</p>

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<p>That’s a tough question. As I said before, even seasoned college financial aid pros have a difficult time doing “needs analysis” for many international students. Very generally speaking, if your family includes two adults and one student and there are no significant assets (e.g., savings, real estate) and your household income is about $40,000 or below, then your Estimated Family Contribution will be 0, and your “demonstrated need” will be the full cost of the college (even including housing, food, and travel). Some of the wealthier colleges provide all of this for families making even more.</p>

<p>If, on the other hand, your family makes the equivalent of, say, US$150,000 and owns a home and has some savings, you may be expected to pay everything yourself. </p>

<p>So if your family income and assets fall somewhere in between these marks, you can extrapolate and figure very approximately what a realistic contribution from your family is going to be … at least from the college’s perspective. </p>

<p>Then you have to decide how this figure meshes with what you and your family feel you can actually afford.</p>

<p>The College Board’s Estimated Family Contribution calculator is NOT designed for international students. But, even so, you can play around with it to try to get a very approximate sense of the sum that colleges will expect from your family. See [EFC</a> Calculator: How Much Money for College Will You Be Expected to Contribute?](<a href=“http://apps.collegeboard.com/fincalc/efc_welcome.jsp]EFC”>http://apps.collegeboard.com/fincalc/efc_welcome.jsp)</p>