Alabama gets receiver Duron Carter, son of Hall of Famer Cris Carter

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<p>Alabama gets receiver Duron Carter, son of Hall of Famer Cris Carter</p>

<p>*A late recruiting addition could mean some added depth for Alabama in its receiving corps.</p>

<p>Former Ohio State receiver Duron Carter, the son of Cris Carter, is finishing up at Coffeyville (Kan.) Community College and plans to enroll at Alabama in June and will be eligible next season, Cris Carter told ESPN.com.</p>

<p>Duron played as a freshman at Ohio State in 2009 and had 13 catches for 176 yards and a touchdown, but was ruled academically ineligible that season and missed the Rose Bowl. He also sat out spring practice that next year because of academic reasons and left Ohio State in June 2010.</p>

<p>The 6-foot-5, 210-pound Carter was originally hoping to re-enroll at Ohio State after getting his academic business in order in junior college, but that door was later closed.</p>

<p>Miami and LSU also pursued Carter, but his Hall of Fame father said the structure of Nick Saban’s program at Alabama was one of the deciding factors.</p>

<p>It also helped that the Crimson Tide were looking for more playmakers at receiver after losing Julio Jones early to the NFL draft. And** with Carter being eligible to play next season, he’ll get a chance to show what he can do right away.**</p>

<p>Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks are both proven seniors who’ve played a lot of football for the Tide, while redshirt freshmen DeAndrew White and Keiwone Malone are two others that will factor heavily into the rotation next season.*</p>

<p>[Alabama</a> gets receiver help in Duron Carter - SEC Blog - ESPN](<a href="SEC Blog- ESPN/id/21132/alabama-gets-receiver-help-in-carter?utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral%5DAlabama">SEC Blog- ESPN/id/21132/alabama-gets-receiver-help-in-carter?utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral)</p>

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<p>Roll Tide and welcome to Bama Duron!</p>

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<p>RTR!!! He gets to play for a “clean” program now. Ohio State is one of my least favorite college football teams!</p>

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<p>Paint the kettle black. </p>

<p>I don’t have a dog in this fight, in fact I have two. I got into both Bama and OSU and I like both of them, but I don’t really think anyone from UA can criticize Ohio State. Maybe Notre Dame can, but when was the last time they were truly relevant in college football? </p>

<p>Sure maybe Saban is better than a lot of UA coaches in the past, but this is pretty shady too:</p>

<p>[Saban</a> vs. Rapoport: The numbers game… | al.com](<a href=“http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/04/playing_the_numbers_game.html]Saban”>Saban vs. Rapoport: The numbers game... - al.com)</p>

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<p>^^^</p>

<p>What does that prove?</p>

<p>It was around this time that Saban gave Leigh Tiffin a scholarship because he had an extra one (Leigh didn’t come to the team on scholarship…he comes from an affluent Bama family), so Saban wouldn’t have given him one if he was short of scholarships.</p>

<p>The below comment gives some insight about how all of this works out.</p>

<p>*Truth is that Zeke is probably done and will go medical scholarship. Prince Hall is probably done. 1 or 2 guys will decide they’re done w Football and 3 signees are not going to make their grades and have to go JUCO. *</p>

<p>The implication that something unethical went on is reading too much into that column.</p>

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<p>Don’t be surprised to see another son of a Hall of Famer join Bama in 2012: Barry Sanders, Jr.</p>

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<p>lol over signing is the biggest non-issue in sports. When Kids get hurt seriously enough to end their careers they go on a medical scholarship which opens up a spot on the 85 man scholarship roster for healthy players. When kids break rules and fail drug tests they get their scholarships pulled. By over signing you’re protecting yourself from getting caught with low numbers. the recruits that are in line for a greyshirt fully understand the circumstances and that possibility when they sign. Not once has Saban ever signed a player only to not have room for him in the fall without that kid having been told about the possibility he may be greyshirted.</p>

<p>A coach hiding info and lying to his administration and the NCAA investigators (Jim sweater vest Tressel) is 1,000,000,000 times worse and is actually against NCAA rules. Over signing is not against the rules and is practiced by most schools around the country.</p>

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<p>MABama: you’re right on with the Barry Sanders Jr (though technically he’s not jr) talk. UA is in great shape with him and it appears to be a Bama - FSU battle with Okla St (dad’s school) in the mix as well. </p>

<p>Saban has signed some great recruiting classes and this coming years class might top them all. Roll Tide!!</p>

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<p>Over signing is all conditional on everything fall into place. Alabama hasn’t had a problem yet…yet, but when you play around with fire, eventually you’re probably going to get burned. Like what happened to the player at LSU a few years back. I don’t know the complete details on the story though, maybe Miles flat out lied to him and told him he would have a spot and never mentioned he might be grey-shirted. </p>

<p>And the NCAA allows it…for now.
[NCAA</a> taking a closer look at oversigning - CBSSports.com](<a href=“http://eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27754192]NCAA”>http://eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27754192)
[Oversigning</a> still a problem? - NCAA.org](<a href=“http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/February/Oversigning+still+a+problem]Oversigning”>http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/February/Oversigning+still+a+problem)</p>

<p>And from the previous article I cited:</p>

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<p>Yes it does not directly say something unethical is going on behind the scenes, but Saban certainly could have said something better than that and it certainly DOES imply that “something unethical went on” behind the scenes. </p>

<p>Otherwise, why wouldn’t he just tell us? </p>

<p>Saban was the coach in 2007 and that was in the middle of a recent NCAA investigation and scandal. Granted it certainly is not as severe as the Ohio State scandal will likely turn out, but it happened under Saban and NCAA ruled on it. </p>

<p>Now, with all the stuff swirling around OSU and Tressel, I guess it is fair to say the Alabama program is cleaner than the OSU program is now. Ask me 6 months ago and I would have probably said Bama had a dirtier program, but Tressel really screwed up.</p>

<p>But my point is that while UA is cleaner than OSU is now, it’s not like Saban and Bama run a completely clean, no controversy/scandal program. Practically no Division I school does and Alabama has had its fair share of violations and probations over the years. So I don’t think anyone can label UA as a completely clean program. </p>

<p>But at least UA isn’t nearly as bad as Auburn, which I guess is all that really matters. </p>

<p>One other thing. The whole over signing thing is only given from the UA perspective. The national perspective seems to think it is probably bad for CFB and the NCAA is looking into it. </p>

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<p>That is the national perspective. And IMO it is probably right, but there is also an Ohio State perspective. Tressel did not come forward with the anonymous email because he was warned that impeding with an ongoing (and still undercover) FBI investigation could cause even more problems and put some of his players at risk. </p>

<p>Doesn’t explain why he didn’t come forward later, but not wanting to mess with the FBI or trusting some random email from a questionable source (lawyer that lost his law license) sounds a lot better than completely ignoring the issue and lying to officials for the sole purpose of winning games. </p>

<p>And I know I’ll get flamed for this post, but like I said, I got into OSU and Bama and both are in my final mix of college choices, so I don’t have an ax to grind with Bama.</p>

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<p>The only schools that cry about over signing are from the Big 10. And that’s because they’re looking for an excuse as to why the SEC kicks their ass on the field. As long as coaches are upfront with the players (and all reports say Saban is) then over signing is a non-issue. </p>

<p>Read the recent comments made by Chris Carter about wanting his son to play for a man like Saban. He raves about his integrity, discipline, and character.</p>

<p>Saban had nothing to do with that textbook crap as it was going on before he got here and wasn’t just limited to the football program. </p>

<p>Ask Maurice Clarett how clean the Ohio St program was before this latest incident. Maybe you can get him on the phone because the NCAA gave up trying to reach him. </p>

<p>I personally don’t care about Ohio St one way or another. I do think Tressel should be fired though. If the NCAA is going to suspend Dez Bryant for an entire season for lying about something that wasn’t even a violation then they damn sure better hammer Tressel for lying and covering up something that was a violation. Coaches should be held to higher standards than players. Tennessee fired Pearl to try to help lessen the NCAA’s bite. Ohio St might want to consider doing similar.</p>

<p>Anyway, good luck with your college decision. Roll Tide!!</p>

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<p>I haven’t read the entire thread, but why would anybody rejoice in getting a football player who clearly is not in college for the education. He has be academically ineligible for two seasons, and you are happy to get him to play for you? Wow, let’s go to UA so we can see great football. The players may not be bright, but…who cares. Roll Tide. ;)</p>

<p>College football is not the NFL. The players should get an education and the sport should be secondary.</p>

<p>Am I missing something here?</p>

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<p>in getting a football player who clearly is not in college for the education. He has be academically ineligible for two seasons, and you are happy to get him to play for you?</p>

<p>Saying he was academically ineligible for two season is a bit of an exaggeration …he was ruled ineligible at the end of his frosh football season (Fall 2009) because of fall grades so that means that he played the season, but missed the post-season bowl game (beginning of 2010 - same football season). That means that when his Fall frosh grades came out, they were below the minimum. However, he played all of the regular season play that Fall 2009. </p>

<p>Then, because of those Fall Frosh grades, he continued to be ineligible for spring practice. He left OSU at the end of spring semester and went to a JUCO and played last Fall. I don’t know what his Frosh Spring grades were, but maybe they were better, but not high enough to bring up his cum average when including his Fall grades. Or, maybe he dropped a class and fell under the minimum credits req’t. Does anyone know? </p>

<p>I don’t know what the GPA/credits rules are for playing at a JUCO (heck, the NCAA rules are complicated enough), but maybe after taking summer classes last summer, he was able to become eligible for JUCO play.</p>

<p>So, in all, he only missed ONE football game. It’s an exaggeration to imply that he missed two seasons when he only missed one game.</p>

<p>It looks like after 2 semesters at a JUCO, his grades and overall GPA are ok for NCAA play. If he’s shown himself to be more academically serious, would you suggest that he not be given a second chance? That’s harsh. </p>

<p>We have no evidence that he won’t get an education at Bama. Yes, he had academic problems as a frosh…which many students do…simply because of immaturity coming out of high school. He’s a little older now…can’t we assume that he’s learned his lesson and give him another chance? </p>

<p>Perhaps OSU doesn’t have the supplemental academic support in place like Bama does. Bama has an academic support facility for its athletes to provide tutors and other help to keep these kids on academic track. </p>

<p>Nick Saban does not think football should be more important than academics…his teams have had very good academic success…very good graduation rate…very good GPA for football players. </p>

<p>There’s no evidence that Duron is going to “use” Bama like $cam Newton did with Auburn…come for one year, play one season, and leapfrog into the NFL.</p>

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<p>While at Bama bound last summer my DD and myself entered into a conversation with Julio Jones and Mark Ingram. They were sitting outside the Ferg, studying and DD got the up nod…then the “hi” and so we stopped and chatted. When asked why they were there and not enjoying their summer they told us how Coach Saban had the football players in summer school. They went on to explain how he stressed academics and that these boys stay in school (obviously these guys are old enough to make their own decisions and of course there is the lure of the almighty $$$$) and what Coach wanted was for them to graduate with a degree that they could use if football didn’t work out. It was a great conversation with two very well spoken and polite young men.
DD then had a class next to Julio in the fall…she and he would sit outside waiting for their respective classes to let out and talk with Julio’s tutor/escort that walked him to and from every class. She was an older woman (I understand some of the players have younger versions of this) and was very nice and made it known that she and Coach were on the same page when it comes to academics. There apparently was a rather heated discussion one day about Julio’s lack of focus in the classroom …where he announced that life after Bama was just going to be football and she then reminded him that he had to pass his classes this year first before there was a future in anything. My DD said she “shut him down good”.
So I think that although Bama is a football powerhouse when it comes to recruiting and to executing on the field I do believe that Coach Saban has a desire to have his students succeed academically and leave Bama with a career path to fall back on if they should need it.
Roll Tide!!!</p>

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<p>Kids from all walks of life bomb their first semester or two of college. Obviously Duron didn’t have the maturity and focus he needed when he was at Ohio St. </p>

<p>He has since gone to JUCO and will graduate from there in May. That to me is reason enough to be excited for the kid. He obviously has seen the error of his ways and is going about his business to rectify his previous failings. His dad has also seen that his son needs structure and guidance and that’s why he wants him at UA under Saban’s eyes.</p>

<p>If giving kids a second chance doesn’t fit in with your idea of what a University is supposed to do. Then maybe you’re the one who needs to get educated.</p>