Yes an Intel finalist URM with a great deal of course rigor and perfect grades probably has an excellent chance of wining admittance to even the vaunted HYPS. I think it would be unusual to find such a student who wasn’t.
She is outstanding and deserves it but what seems odd is that I never ever heard or read of an Asian or Caucasian student getting into all 8 Ivies.
I wonder how many students apply to all of them.
A student from our semi-rural HS who graduated with one of my kids a while ago…got accepted at all the Ivies…and Stanford.
No Intel awards, none of that. Just a very bright kid who was involved in some very good things in our school and community. And yes…she was the class Val.
She went to Stanford.
Why would anyone apply to all if they truly understood the differences between them other than to say you were accepted to all. And why would a GC encourage this…SMH
Indeed. Personally, I think it’s a bad idea to keep hyping this as if this is some sort of accomplishment.
The kids who everyone wants typically apply to only HYPS (usually SCEA to one) and a few others and get in to all of them.
It’s hard to find a good reason to apply to all the other Ivies after a SCEA acceptance.
That school pays fee and helps with applications. With financial aid and merit, she will get free ride so no need to worry about COA.
Will be soon be hearing about her “full ride scholarship” to the Ivies?? Or will she have to choose based on cost? Wasn’t there a kid last year accepted to all Ivies and who then chose UA because of cost?
I have this link bookmarked because I’ve never heard of a “white or Asian kid has been accepted to all Ivy league schools” literally comes up in every… single… thread… like this.
Here you go, @WorryHurry411 : http://www.businessinsider.com/stefan-stoykov-accepted-to-all-eight-ivy-league-schools-2015-4
White kid.
He is a poor immigrant who couldn’t even speak English until middle school. He doesn’t count but thanks for finding him. Now, I’m waiting for that one Asian kid link.
Why doesn’t he count?
Just like people can’t pick being born with silver spoon in mouth, they can’t pick being born as homeless refugee. Bright and hardworking middle class students with similar accomplishments are treated unfairly?
There are probably some 25 (or more) Ivy-level schools – superelite private schools – including the eight that are actually members.
Let’s list them just for fun:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
Williams
MIT
Columbia
UChicago
Amherst
Penn
Pomona
Duke
Dartmouth
Brown
Swarthmore
Northwestern
Middlebury
Cornell
Wellesley
Caltech
Johns Hopkins
Bowdoin
Vanderbilt
Rice
Washington U
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Emory…
And as others have said, the eight actual Ivies are quite different from one another. I am of the belief that one should only apply to schools that he or she actually likes and would enjoy.
Now, in our list we see there are a lot of Ivy-level schools. I’m thinking kids would be better off picking their favorite eight from that expanded list… than simply applying to all eight Ivies arbitrarily.
(Eight seems like a lot of reaches… but if you’re going to apply to that many, at least put some time into figuring out which schools actually suit you…)
Here’s what you say when you hear of someone else’s good fortune, whether it’s college acceptance or something else.
“Congratulations! That’s wonderful. Enjoy.”
And then you shut up unless you have something to add.
See how easy that is? It works in so many circumstances and it makes you the better person.
Nobody is saying to those kids that they didn’t deserve it, it’s a general discussion because we hear same news every year. Makes one wonder.
For these kids, my message is same as yours.
“Congratulations! That’s wonderful. Enjoy.”
Shutting up doesn’t necessarily makes you a better person. If it did, you would be practicing it yourself. I’m glad you gave your opinion. That’s what makes it a discussion, where diffrent people agree to disagree.
@WorryHurry411, Here’s another caucasian kid - although also an immigrant - who got into all the Ivies he applied to - 7 - plus ten other elite schools.
http://www.today.com/id/25238281/ns/today-today_news/t/years-entering-us-he-gets-ivy-leagues/
And here’s an Asian woman who got into all the Ivies - that is, if you count someone of an Indian heritage to be Asian
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/virginia-student-earns-admission-to-all-eight-ivy-league-schools-and-others/2015/04/10/64e46100-df0d-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_story.html
My point being, that just because YOU haven’t heard of Asian or white kids getting this great honor doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…
Well, not all 8 Ivy League schools, but here is one who got admitted to HYPSM (plus 4 UCs) and got a Gates Millenium scholarship.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article2577688.html
So far we established two distinctions, being an immigrant with hardship or being unrepresented minority with financial hardship. Still waiting on middle class stats.
It’s not that someone got into all Ivies, it’s that every year lots and lots of kids with similar or higher stats and EC’s get rejected by those schools.
I understand that for ones with hardships, hurdles are tougher so they deserve special treatment but then it should be clear to others that they don’t meet prerequisites so shouldn’t keep high expectations.
So many kids read these news and start a fruitless mission to achieve similar results. There is another thread going on about a valedictorian who doesn’t want to show her face on graduation day because she couldn’t get into a single Ivy.
@ucbalumnus I’ll give it to you, he Asian. However, he is South Korean Immigrant kid of a single mother with mental health issues and government assistance as income. His amazing accomplishments and serious hardships make him a unique candidate but still not all 8 were convinced.