Oh you mean the same Patrick Henry College that categorically rejects all faculty who do not submit to the [Statement of Faith](Statement of Faith | Patrick Henry College (PHC))? Oh you also mean the college which has been accused multiple times of covering up sexual assault and having extremely odd definitions of consent? The school is well within its right to do the first, and possibly the second, but I would not hold up Patrick Henry College as a beacon of liberty.
HAHAHAHA! Have you ever looked at any peer reviewed study pertaining to this issue?
@HarvestMoon1 - You mean the post where he refers to my question as being stupid and to me as a foolish liberal? Yup, I’m done because being female, the OP doesn’t value my opinions anyway. Too bad we populate over half the earth and that the human race can’t exist without us. His mom must be so proud.
Why are we wasting all this time on a HS sophomore? Ted can take care of this after he comes in fourth in Iowa and has plenty of free time on his hands.
@doschicos
I didn’t even know you were female, so please don’t take what I said out of context. I disagree with your views, I don’t care what gender you are. Anyway guys, can we please stop arguing , and get to something constructive?(I’ve had enough debate for 1 day) I am looking carefully at Thomas Aquinas College in California. It’s a Catholic Great Books college, and it looks like another good option for me. Here is the list of books they read each year. http://thomasaquinas.edu/a-liberating-education/syllabus
Could you guys look at this, and give me your feedback? The only concern I have with this school is that it is very Catholic, and I’m afraid that as a conservative Anglican, I may not fit in there. Do you guys think this college would be a good fit, and would it give me a good education?
Thanks
@whenhen
Please don’t attack Patrick Henry College. It is an amazing institution that sends students to ivy league law schools every year. The New Republic was trying to attack it because of it’s success. I visited the school, and the academics are very rigorous. Women are deeply respected at PHC. A WOMEN is the Student Body President for crying out loud.
Kdkhan, Ted Cruz may have gone to Harvard Law School, but he did not go to HSC for college, did he? If memory serves, he in fact attend an undergraduate institution that is actually “excellent”. I am not sure how well regarded a degree from HSC will be by the folks at Harvard Law School’s admissions office. The top law schools that do publish data concerning the undergraduate institutions attended by their current students are Yale, Chicago, Michigan, Georgetown, Northwestern and UVa. In addition, although Harvard Law School does not publish a detailed report as do those mentioned above, it does list the colleges and universities attended by their current law students, and there is no sign of HSC. In fact, not a single one of the current students enrolled at those top law schools went to HSC for their undergraduate studies. That’s a pretty damning fact. Ironically, “terrible” Morehouse is represented at all those top law schools.
Just a couple of pointers:
Regardless of your values and/or believes, top law schools will typically give preference to applicants from well-regarded undergraduate institutions (not necessarily highly ranked, but well regarded), and apparently, HSC is not one of them.
What I think doschicos meant to say is that just because you feel like you belong to a particular group does not mean that group will welcome you...or extend to you equal membership/status as others belonging to that group.
@Alexandre
If you don’t think HSC is well regarded that’s fine. What about Patrick Henry(God’s Harvard)? It sends students to Harvard and Yale Law every year? What do you think of Patrick Henry?
Regarding TAC - good academics, a Great Books curriculum serves well for those aspiring to law. It is very Catholic, however, and is proud of it - being very conservative in terms of dress, behavior, etc. I don’t know whether or not that’s something you want. I wouldn’t consider it ‘preppy’, necessarily, but its less liberal leanings may make it an okay fit. It is co-ed, so if being in a classroom with women is something you can’t tolerate, you may have to look elsewhere. It’s also fairly small and secluded, a bit like Sewanee is. Also, unless there’s been a change, I don’t believe they offer merit aid if that’s of any importance. It has a very beautiful and impressive campus.
If you are open to looking at Catholic colleges, then Wyoming Catholic College may be of interest. Its academics are not as impressive, but it’s another Great Books college that is very, very small and very Catholic, but also very outdoorsy.
@whenhen
What would you say are the main differences between Thomas Aquinas and St. John’s? I know one is Catholic and one isn’t, but I do’t really see much of a difference between them.
I was going to close this thread as getting too contentious and too political, but it seems to have veered back on track here the last few posts. If it can stay there, it can stay open. OP, we don’t allow calling other people’s questions “stupid”. I deleted that line.
Personally I’ve always been a bit weary of both schools, not only because of the poor retention rates (a student must make sure he loves the school before enrolling), but also due to the rejection of non Western white male writings. While these have certainly influenced the culture of America a considerable amount, and the schools can both present excellent arguments as to why they omit things like middle eastern philosophy or Chinese history, it is still problematic.
I think the largest issue with your college search is that you’re just picking out sources that already meet you expectations (i.e: confirmation bias)? You draw from US News when necessary, the National Review when it helps a school you like (Hillsdale), and then say the National Review is wrong when it dislikes PHC. I think you are looking for the most prestigious conservative school you can find rather than fit. Since I didn’t get a response last time, I’ll go ahead and suggest High Point U again, you may like it.
I think that High Anglican and Catholic theologies are very very close, so you should be fine.
The difference is that St John’s includes philosophers from the 19th and 20th century, and overall readings focus less on Ancient Times, with an equal measure given to Antiquity, Middle Ages, Modern Period, and 19th/20th centuries; you won’t study the papal bullae at St John’s; at St John’s, the study of the sciences is more lab-based; you study Latin only at Thomas Aquinas, whereas you study Ancient Greek and French at St JOhn’s (a lot of the texts read in English at Thomas Aquinas are read in the original French at St John’s, which I find pretty cool and impressive).
Both colleges would prepare you well for Law School.
Another advantage with St John’s is that you can attend at either location (Annapolis and Santa Fe, both nice for college students), which I think would be interesting.
OP, I’ve read your posts. I don’t have any information about new all-male colleges being started. That being said, have you thought about Bob Jones? Liberty University? Furman? Baylor?
I know you are Anglican so I’m guessing you’d have a lot in common (philosophically) with Southern Baptists.
SMU (in Dallas) is very conservative as well. As I’m sure you know since you are a Ted Cruz fan, the Republic of Texas is very red.
@gandalf78
I was simply listing the 3 reamainging all male colleges from best to worst. I didn’t say I was interested in allo of hem.
@GnocchiB
I am most certainly NOT interested in Bob Jones or Liberty. I am a High Church Anglican, not a fundamentalist Baptist. We have some similarities in theology, but worship is completely different.
