ALL SCIENCE/math people Deferred?

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well, i was specifically talking about engineering and technology sciences when i mentioned caltech and MIT...for life sciences, as you mentioned all the opportunites at HMS and surrounding hospitals, harvard is probably the best choice...besides, HMS prefers their own students (harvard college), so if you're passionate about medicine you'd want HMS, and if you want that then it's best if you could do harvard undergrad...</p>

<p>but with engineering and tech sciences those schools are def. better if you can make it. in fact, if you are into technology and engineering, the only ivy that can match up to the likes of stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley and other state schools is cornell.

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<p>What does that have to do with Harvard's taking less kids who are science-oriented because they are afraid they would go to MIT/Caltech, etc.? That does not make sense. If Harvard is revamping its sciences (including renaming the Division of Engineering Sciences to the School of Engineering Sciences so it could get more funding and professors), it would want to recruit more talented students who show aptitude in the sciences, not deny them admission to the school. </p>

<p>Harvard doesn't utilize any tactics to up its yield. It knows that it will have a 92% yield on EA admits and an 80% overall yield on its admits no matter what (historically speaking, of course). It would not purposely deny admission to a passionate scientist, unless of course, his/her personal qualities are called into question.</p>

<p>Yikes!</p>

<p>If you are really seeking answers, it might be best not to ignore Tokenadult's question before continuing on a flight of conspiratorial fantasy.</p>

<p>Beyond the math and science, the "Math/Science" EA admits I know are 1/2 in their class, merit scholars, AP scholars, student leaders, humanities award winners, etc. etc. etc. ... (pretty much excellent at everything they do)... and, oh yeah - Conservatory caliber musicians (one classical, one jazz) who play multiple instruments and perform regularly at clubs and concert halls in and around the NYC metropolitan area. </p>

<p>If instead, you are only seeking to b*tch or vent, I'm sorry to intrude.</p>

<p>I thought you couldn't do RSI as a sophmore.</p>

<p>they picked like 5 people to do it.</p>

<p>did you apply as a sophomore?</p>

<p>Guys, crimson2011 is a troll.</p>

<p>He's believable. There was a sophmore at RSI 05 that was a regional finalist this year.</p>

<p>Have your GCs called your regional rep yet?</p>

<p>Guys he sent me a message revealing his name. I did some background check and he did not make USAMO.</p>

<p>Consider this:</p>

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There are many more prospective engineers and math concentrators—61 engineers compared to 41 for the early admits of the Class of 2010 and 87 potential math concentrators compared to 62 last year.

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<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=516474%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=516474&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>So, it seems that Harvard has taken to giving a real interest in math/science concentrators this year. So all I can say is good luck in the RD round :D</p>

<p>That's not the point...Harvard has accepted "prospective concentrators" but seems like (theory) did not let in many competition winners, physics08 will agree with me here. So we think, Harvard is waiting for intel sts and other science competitions...just my opinion!!</p>

<p>That's not our point...Harvard has accepted "prospective concentrators" but seems like (theory) did not let in many competition winners, physics08 will agree with me here. So we think, Harvard is waiting for intel sts and other science competitions...just my opinion!!</p>

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That's not the point...Harvard has accepted "prospective concentrators" but seems like (theory) did not let in many competition winners, physics08 will agree with me here. So we think, Harvard is waiting for intel sts and other science competitions...just my opinion!!

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<p>Because the Intel STS is the sure-fire way to get a Harvard acceptance letter. There are plenty of Intel STS people who don't get into Harvard. It's definitely a plus factor, but it won't guarantee you an acceptance letter.</p>

<p>To sum up, the conclusion here is that Harvard did not defer all math/science types who applied for admission in this year's early round, but rather admitted quite a few of them. And Harvard noted the large number of admitted intending math majors in its press release about this year's students who were admitted in the early round. </p>

<p>Good luck to all the deferred students.</p>

<p>Yeah, actually I only know math/science people who were admitted. Of course, I also know a lot of really awesome math/science people who were deferred. Whatever.</p>

<p>Thanks, tokenadult, we will surely need it!</p>

<p>have your gcs called the adcoms yet?</p>

<p>I doubt it will be of any help, but my counselor will call or email the state's representative tomorrow...she's just curious...</p>

<p>uhh in my school the science/math people got in...</p>

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<p>i think harvard's stress on diversity over merit is stronger than almost any other college out there. EA accepted versus deferred stats proves it.</p>