Alright, what do you HATE about Tufts?

<p>Tufts was on the front page of the Boston Globe today!</p>

<p>but not in any positive light.......</p>

<p>apparently tufts students hate their dorms..........</p>

<p>The new campus crib
Barracks-style dorms becoming things of the past as schools offer upscale living to lure top students</p>

<p>Email|Print|Single Page| Text size – + By Sarah Schweitzer
Globe Staff / April 27, 2008
On the hilltop campus, where a sleek music center recently opened and a state-of-the-art science building is planned, a group of freshmen fear that Tufts University is in danger of being "outclassed." The problem, as documented in a 12-page student critique delivered to administration officials last month, is that dormitory common rooms are dreary spaces with carpets that "clash with furniture," couches that are "haphazardly arranged," and lighting that does not "work with the mood of the room."</p>

<p>Don't get them started on the window dressings.</p>

<p>The students recommend the hiring of an interior designer.</p>

<p>"These are basic necessities . . . to make the rooms more inviting," said Chas Morrison, a freshman from Weston, Conn., and co-author of the critique.</p>

<p>Far from scoffing, administration officials say the students are right and have begun looking into possible improvements.</p>

<p>"A coordinated interior design approach to the routine replacement of carpet and furniture would benefit us," said Bruce Reitman, Tufts dean of students.</p>

<p>Gone is the era when cinder block walls, polyester couches, and triples were dorm de rigueur. College students today are arriving on campuses with ratcheted-up expectations for the aesthetics and comforts of their homes-away-from-home. And increasingly, colleges are scrambling to meet student expectations in the hope of luring top applicants.</p>

<p>Across the region, overhauls and construction are underway to add elan to campus living. Harvard University this month announced plans for an ambitious dormitory overhaul that will gut and renovate a dozen buildings. At Boston University, a $100 million pair of towers is under construction next to another pair that opened in 2000, at a cost of $85 million. Eight hundred and seventeen juniors and seniors make their homes in the towers, where they can sip espresso in a cafe or relax in a penthouse lounge with panoramic city views. Suites of rooms come with kitchens and private bathrooms.</p>

<p>The Massachusetts Institute of Technology six years ago opened the architecturally hailed Simmons Hall with custom-made Scandinavian-style furniture and walls of windows in the rooms. MIT has equipped all its dorms with fitness rooms, and is adding dance studios and music practice rooms with baby grand pianos.</p>

<p>Plasma screen televisions, 42-inch minimum, wireless Internet, and surround sound are now standard-issue in 80 percent of Boston College dorm lounges. Northeastern University, which has opened 11 new dorms since 1999, has installed LaundryView, permitting students to check on the status of their laundry via computer, and made available a laundry service that, for a fee, will pick up, wash, fold and deliver laundry back to a dorm in a day's time.</p>

<p>Schools are quick to say that upgrades are not intended to turn dorms into luxurious castles. Rather, administrators say, the changes simply mirror what students have grown up with - homes that are more spacious, more technology-blitzed than those of students even a decade earlier.</p>

<p>"Society has changed," said Karen Nilsson, senior associate dean for student life with a focus on residential life at MIT. "These students who have had their own rooms, their own bathrooms all their lives. They are going off to college and looking for those kinds of things."</p>

<p>At Boston University, the towers draw raves from students.</p>

<p>"It's like luxury living in Boston," said Alexandra Cioper, a sophomore from New Bedford who is hoping for a lottery-won spot in the coveted dorm.</p>

<p>The hitch, students say, is that the towers are probably nicer than anything they'll live in after they graduate.</p>

<p>"They might be setting up an unrealistic expectation for life," Cioper said.</p>

<p>The comforts come with a price tag. A single in a four-person suite with a kitchen and two bathrooms in the towers at 10 Buick St. next year costs $12,360 per person per academic year, while a single in a standard dormitory is $9,790.</p>

<p>For years, students expected dorms to be little more than barracks, with rooms sleeping two or more and few frills. In the period after World War II, when college populations ballooned, schools built concrete bunker-like dorms that were functional, economical, and little more. Today, colleges say, those dorms often rank at the bottom of student preferences - spurned as ugly, dark, and unwelcoming.</p>

<p>As colleges try to respond to calls for higher-end dorms, they find themselves in an arms race of sorts. Students are comparing the facilities and choosing colleges based, in part, on the residential profiles. The schools, in their chase for top students and top rankings, are scrambling to offer even more dorms on par with those of their competitors.</p>

<p>Andy O'Laughlin, a Tufts freshman from Carlisle, lives in Bush Hall, a squat building constructed in 1959 where the common room is a pass-through space with a smattering of couches, pool tables, and a large-screen television that five students, including O'Laughlin, pooled $100 to buy this year.</p>

<p>It is a far cry from his dorm ideal, drawn from literature.</p>

<p>"I was thinking Harry Potter," he said.</p>

<p>Benji Cohen, a freshman from Cambridge and Bush Hall resident, and a television-purchase contributor, said he, too, has been disappointed.</p>

<p>"I knew it wasn't going to be Harvard because we are not Harvard, but I thought Tufts is a great school, and this is really bad," he said.</p>

<p>Tufts officials say they are working to upgrade their dorms. In 2006, the school opened Sophia Gordon, a $22 million, eco-friendly dorm with suites outfitted with modern couches and full kitchens.</p>

<p>Officials say that Sophia Gordon is the gold standard, one they hope all their other dorms will match or surpass. For now, though, with resources limited, the older dorms must remain, and complaints are mounting.</p>

<p>"The irony is that once you do something that students are really excited about, then by comparison, everything else looks drab," Reitman said. "We do our best, but we are not providing what they are used to</p>

<p>I really would like to hear what admissions has to say about this, is this something Tufts plans on improving?</p>

<p>hmmm i saw a couple of the dorms at tufts and really didn't have any issues (I actually found some of them to be much better than the dorm i stayed at at BU during a summer program that houses all BU freshmen)</p>

<p>Also, it seems like it's a positive thing that the administration is taking complaints into consideration and working to improve. </p>

<p>Lastly, I don't really think a college decision should be based on the dorms unless they're REALLY REALLY TERRIBLE. it's cliche, i know, but what matters is the people in them and what you do with your personal space :)</p>

<p>Yes but this article is only a reflection of what many tufts students know</p>

<p>that the dorms are a large problem</p>

<p>some of them are rodent infected</p>

<p>some of them are dilapidated</p>

<p>and i hear that Tufts can only promise about half its students on campus housing...</p>

<p>don't the style of dorms affect community (the article was about common rooms) and the student experience?</p>

<p>all freshmen and sophomores are guaranteed on-campus housing, and all seniors who want on-campus housing can get it. it's juniors who have the problem. in previous years, all of the juniors who went to the on-campus housing lottery could be accommodated, but with overenrollment, that was not an option this year.</p>

<p>I've never seen Pomona, but Tufts felt 'crowded' which, if you are from NYC will be something you're used to and feel comfortable about - or want a change. By crowded I mean a lot a buildings are close together or on streets next to each other without a lot of room on the sides. </p>

<p>But from an intellectual, prestige, educational point of view...it's top notch.</p>

<p>Whatever. I've been to my friends' schools, some of them have nicer dorms than ours, and some of them are appalling and tiny. Students cite the dorms as a minus because there's not much else they can think of, and since some were built in the 1960s, yeah, they're not the best. </p>

<p>And it's weird, because I think of Wren as the crappiest dorm, but this year it was high demand, and people spruced up their common rooms with posters, christmas lights, and drew chalk pictures on the brick walls. It looked more fun and social than many other dorms I've seen. People hang out in the common rooms whether or not there are leather chairs in them, and if your common room is for some reason unacceptable to you, you can hang out with friends in a myriad other campus areas.</p>

<p>Also, the downhill dorm area is just unfortunate b/c it doesn't have a quad. There's some space between Tilton and Haskell where I've seen guys playing soccer, between Lewis and Tilton, and in front of South and Latin Way, where people lie out on blankets and play guitar in good weather, but it doesn't have the same feel as the Res or Academic quads. </p>

<p>Last year my ex-roommate and I had a really funny conversation online about how we'd make a list of buildings on campus that we'd blow up (IT WAS A JOKE...WE ARE NOT THREATENING THE SCHOOL) for one reason or other. For example, Hill Hall was on the top of the list b/c we were ****ed at Mail Services. (Like when you stop by for a package at 3 pm, walk all the way back to South, and then your email has a message in the inbox - delivered at 5 in the MORNING! - saying "Packages pending pickup.") Latin Way was demolished for being too geometric (what is with the crazy octagonal layout, and the shapes in the windows??), Bush was out because it reminded us too much of our embarrassing president, etc. Uphill was reduced to Miller, Olin, West and Carmichael (because uphillers have to eat, too). We couldn't figure out whether or not to get rid of Packard, though, because we have no idea what happens in it. lol. BUT, the POINT is, we didn't just say "let's level all the dorms, because they all suck!" lol. Extraneous story, but I think some of you will appreciate it.</p>

<p>If I recall the question here was "what do you hate about Tufts"</p>

<p>as in, where could Tufts improve</p>

<p>I go to Tufts, we all chose it over some other competitive schools</p>

<p>but it would be silly to say that dorm/residence hall life at Tufts is up to par with the rest of the university's reputation. And is nowhere near that of other top tier schools.</p>

<p>This is not to say that Tufts isn't awesome, it just has some room to improve.</p>

<p>It also is silly to say that this issue isn't on the minds of the student body, they have been numerous articles in the Tufts daily that describe the "mouse infestations of dorms" or how students have created a "committee" to advocate for better housing</p>

<p>The fact that the issue made front page of the Globe (sunday edition) was embarrassing for Tufts, but just goes to show that it is on the minds of alot of students.......... i mean lets be serious, it is an issue.</p>

<p>I guess you're right. I was just a little put off by the words "large problem." Students are definitely thinking about it, but I think for most of the student body it's something they dislike but that they don't necessarily think about THAT much.</p>

<p>Finally, a complaint with a little substance!</p>

<p>I think bluirinka's post immediately above me is dead on, and I'll help add to that perspective by contextualizing the the first-year students who have started the committee for the "Improvement of Residential Life and Community" and their impressions of their own campaign. I've been pretty blessed to actually know Chas Morrison and Shabazz Stuart, and I know both are EXTREMELY enthusiastic about being at Tufts and about the people and opportunities present at our school. If you asked either about whether they are happy at Tufts, I have no doubt they emphatically say they are. The committee they started isn't a reflection of disappointment with their experience, rather it's a reflection of their belief that the residential facilities could be made better and the belief that the administration is receptive to their message. </p>

<p>Both Chas and Shabazz are student senators, and have seen first-hand how students can affect change - see the Tufts Daily's most recent article for an update on how they feel about their committee's goals: Student</a> group urges administration to improve dorm common rooms. These are not disgruntled students, just the opposite; Chas and Shabazz have jumbo Jumbo pride. I can see the irony in some of the most enthusiastic Tufts students also being the ones looking the most to improve our school.</p>

<p>I am not arguing with the complaint itself. One of the great things about CC is the opportunity to receive less filtered appraisals of the school in which the forum-goers are interested. I recognize my place here is not to start candy-coating Tufts, as I believe that honesty regarding who we are at Tufts is the best way to connect with the fantastic students who ultimately belong here. Nevertheless, it's important to understand the spirit in which Chas and Shabazz, and others like them, bring forth these complaints.</p>

<p>Link to a second article on the goals of the committee: Student</a> group raises questions about quality of Tufts dormitories</p>

<p>If it was on the front page of the globe, it must have been a ridiculously slow news day.</p>

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<p>Old news Harvard09.</p>

<p>I wouldn't say that the dorms are rodent "infected", nor are they rodent infested. I have seen some rats running around outside of South, but they're
cute rats. My kid had ants in her ground floor room in South, but a little ant spray took care of that. One thing that I disliked when i visited her is how
the bathrooms would get totally trashed over the weekends. That's the students' fault though. I remember going into South on a Sunday night and 4 out of 5 bathrooms were unusable.
My biggest complaint is that most juniors are kicked off campus. It's very expensive to get an apartment near the campus. When I went to Tufts it
was actually cheaper to live off campus and the bedrooms in the apartments
were much larger. My kid's single in South btw was the size of a closet.
I think they might have the smallest singles on campus though.
This year I am somewhat concerned about safety. There have been several robberies of students on the periphery of the campus, mostly near Powderhouse Blvd. and Packard Ave. I hope that the university will respond
to this problem in some way.</p>