<p>Among the top 15 schools, how many have student bodies that are mostly liberal? How about the faculty?</p>
<p>umm do you mean top 15 universities or liberal arts colleges? The overwhelming majority are liberal, but that's most colleges in the country. Umm, Notre Dame is conservative. That's all I can think of.</p>
<p>For LACs, Washington & Lee is conservative.</p>
<p>HYS Columbia Brown Chicago, Cornell, MIT, - Liberal
Princeton, Dartmouth, Duke, Georgetown, Northwestern, UVA - more conservative bent, still overall more liberal</p>
<p>These might not answer your question since top 15 might be forgetting some since I didn't list that many</p>
<p>Aside from W&L, every top 20 university and LAC is liberal. </p>
<p>But Duke, Vandy, Princeton, Gtown, and Notre Dame will seem moderate in comparison to Yale, Brown, etc.</p>
<p>There are very few conservative universities. Most top universities are anywhere between liberal and middle of the road.</p>
<p>TOP LACS:
Amherst College - Liberal
Bates College - Liberal
Bowdoin College - Liberal
Carleton College - Liberal
Claremont McKenna College - Liberal
Colby College - Liberal
Colgate University - Middle of the road
Davidson College - Middle of the road
Grinnell College - Liberal
Haverford College - Middle of the road
Middlebury College - Middle of the road
Oberlin College - Liberal
Pomona College - Liberal
Reed College - Liberal
Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
Vassar College - Liberal
Washington and Lee - Conservative
Wesleyan University - Liberal
Williams College - Libera</p>
<p>TOP PRIVATE RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES:
Brown University - Liberal
California Institute of Technology - Liberal
Carnegie Mellon University - Liberal
Columbia University - Liberal
Cornell University - Liberal
Dartmouth College - Left of center
Duke University - Middle of the road
Emory University - Middle of the road
Georgetown University - Middle of the road
Harvard University - Liberal
Johns Hopkins University - Liberal
Massachusetts Institute of Technology - Liberal
Northwestern University - Left of center
Princeton University - Left of center
Rice University - Left of center
Stanford University - Liberal
University of Chicago - Liberal
University of Pennsylvania - Liberal
University of Notre Dame - Middle of the road
Vanderbilt University - Middle of the road
Wake Forest Universty - Conservative
Washington University - Middle of the road
Yale University - Liberal</p>
<p>TOP PUBLICS:
College of William & Mary - Middle of the road
University of California-Berkeley - Liberal
University of California-Los Angeles - Liberal
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign - Middle of the road
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Liberal
Universty of North Carolina-Chapel Hill - Left of center
University of Texas-Austin - Liberal
University of Virginia - Middle of the road
University of Wisconsin-Madison - Liberal</p>
<p>There are more Marxists on US university faculties than there were ever in Russia. I've forgotten who said that.</p>
<p>Hey, Marxist> Leninist. be thankful for that :]</p>
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TOP LACS:
Amherst College - Liberal
Bates College - Liberal
Bowdoin College - Liberal
Carleton College - Liberal
Claremont McKenna College - Liberal
Colby College - Liberal
Colgate University - Middle of the road
Davidson College - Middle of the road
Grinnell College - Liberal
Haverford College - Middle of the road
Middlebury College - Middle of the road
Oberlin College - Liberal
Pomona College - Liberal
Reed College - Liberal
Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
Vassar College - Liberal
Washington and Lee - Conservative
Wesleyan University - Liberal
Williams College - Liberal
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<p>Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
Claremont McKenna College - Liberal</p>
<p>Did the monkey with the darts have a shaky hand today? For the record, a few schools have resisted the complete infestation and successfully avoided the leftist utter domination that plagues most so-called elite schools. On the other hand, calling a few schools only "liberal" is the understatement of the year. Red Square, anyone?</p>
<p>Even this monkey has shaky hands sometimes! I am sure I was off in a couple of those. I did hesitate with Swarthmore because I did get mixed vibes when I visited. I am not familiar enough with Claremont McKenna, but I was under the impression it was left of centre for the most part.</p>
<p>At any rate Xiggi, we are of course lableling universities in a broad but relative sense. Students and faculty at top universities generall share a thirst for knowledge and are generally open minded and tolerant. So a "conservative" university will still be relatively liberal when compared to the general population. And as you point out, some of the "liberal" institutions above, like Reed, are downright communist! LOL!!!</p>
<p>Emory University - Liberal
University of Chicago - Left of Center
University of Notre Dame - Conservative
Washington University - Liberal</p>
<p>University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign - Liberal</p>
<p>Basically, the best and most prestigious colleges are liberal. There's a reason why Notre Dame, BJU and Brigham Young aren't at the top. They don't attract the smartest crowd. Why are so many conservatives (religious fundamentalists included) dying to get into Yale, if they aren't open to challenging their conservative beliefs? I don't understand. They should stick to their own kind: Notre Dame, Bob Jones University, Brigham Young and such. Ew.</p>
<p>The truth is that all national universities in the top 15 have the majority of their student bodies being liberal/left of center.</p>
<p>Xiggi: You missed the mark. The question was which schools had most of their student bodies being liberal, not whether or not the institutions are liberal or conservative overall (in terms of doctrine, beliefs, etc). People's responses indicating "liberal" or "conservative" were simplified answers to that question.</p>
<p>The top colleges are liberal (among other things) partly because most of the (e.g male) tenured professors live in a socialist-style academic bubble, often have little if any real world experience in a regular job, and sometimes sleep with (and thus often adopt the views of) the co-eds in their classes</p>
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Basically, the best and most prestigious colleges are liberal. There's a reason why Notre Dame, BJU and Brigham Young aren't at the top. They don't attract the smartest crowd. Why are so many conservatives (religious fundamentalists included) dying to get into Yale, if they aren't open to challenging their conservative beliefs? I don't understand. They should stick to their own kind: Notre Dame, Bob Jones University, Brigham Young and such. Ew.</p>
<p>The truth is that all national universities in the top 15 have the majority of their student bodies being liberal/left of center.</p>
<p>Xiggi: You missed the mark. The question was which schools had most of their student bodies being liberal, not whether or not the institutions are liberal or conservative overall (in terms of doctrine, beliefs, etc). People's responses indicating "liberal" or "conservative" were simplified answers to that question.
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<p>'tisthetruth, would you like to explain how I missed the mark on the two institutions I singled out? Or was that about the infestation and Red Square?</p>
<p>"Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage" has never been more appropriate for the posters who added their little gems of self-adulation in posts 13 and 19.</p>
<p>At Cornell, the liberal:conservative ratio of professors is something huge like 8:1. The conservatives often complain that this is unfair, but administration has hired not based on political views, just the best and the brigtest they could find.</p>
<p>Both sides claim to be accepting, and neither are. That is the way of zealotry.</p>
<p>Personally, I think anyone far on EITHER side of the spectrum is a kook. You really have to have a screw or two loose to buy 100% into any sort of line-of-thought.</p>
<h2>Except for what I think. :D (KIDDING! Don't go at my throat!)</h2>
<p>Anyway, I think that the term "liberal" gets a bit muddled in the current language. I like to think that there's a marked difference between a mindless leftist and a liberal. I'm proud of my liberal (read: libertarian) beliefs-- in other words, classic Anglo-Saxon/Western European liberalism. I think that the very notion of "liberal" is so easily changed to fit whatever situation as to become essentially meaningless. </p>
<p>Universities tend to be a bit less stodgy in their thinking than the world-at-large. They may even have some zealots on board. But the wide brush of leftist-think is somewhat overused. Just because someone challenges the status quo doesn't make them a leftist in my mind. It may make them liberal, but what if that person wants to challenge something that is actually quite "liberal" in nature? Like my professor who challenged us to consider whether or not tariffs were worth it, despite the protection of jobs.</p>
<p>He's pretty liberal on that belief. But is he leftist? Not by a long shot.</p>
<p>Yes, semantics are tiring. But they are important if we are to truly look at these schools and give them some sort of "label."</p>
<p>This was discussed earlier in this thread but I just wanted to clarify...</p>
<p>Swarthmore >>> Liberal</p>
<p>There is a reason its called Kremlin on the Crum....</p>
<p>As far as conservatism and liberalism there is no home for many of us. I truly wish for a new party that I could wholly identify with. I agree with conservatives on most budget and financial issues, but side with liberals on many social ones. When it comes time for an election, I must decide what issues to vote as no platform comes close to representing my goals.</p>
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<p>Bottom line is all great universities are liberal. Just to name a few</p>
<p>Columbia
Brown
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
MIT
Chicago
Berkeley
Michigan
Wisconsin
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and Reed!!! :)
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