<p>^ Ahahaha I don’t think I have a lot invested in my screenname… but why change it if I don’t need to? I won’t need to use CC as much anymore, and when I do it’ll just be for old time’s sake or to ask a few questions about college life in general.
Well, I originally wanted to keep it private, but I decided against it. A lot of awesome people have helped me for a long time, and so they probably would want to know.
That said, THANK YOU GUYS for the good wishes, I appreciate it 
I don’t mind answering questions about my rationale, I’m sure it will help a good many students accepted to research unis + LACs next year who will have trouble deciding.
I still feel a sort of tie with Cornell, since after all, I’ve put a LOT into the application and post-application processes.</p>
<p>I think this whole thread is ridiculous. The only reason there is a thread dedicated to this person is because for months he was on the Cornell thread indicating how much he wanted to go to Cornell. He has the stats for Cornell and seemed to so love the school that he endeared himself in our hearts. We did not understand why he did not get in ED.</p>
<p>Well he didn’t really love Cornell. He now says Williams feels so much better. Why didn’t Williams feel so much better before? Why did you say Cornell was so perfect and the place you wanted to be? How does everything change in a matter of weeks?</p>
<p>MY OPINION–Williams is #2 ranked LAC and Cornell is second lowest ranked Ivy. He sees Williams as more prestigious. </p>
<p>I wish him well and know he is attending a great school. Now, lets move on.</p>
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<p>Maybe 1,700+ posts isn’t much invested for you, but if you value the majority of the posts you’ve made in the past nine months, then that is remarkable. There’s nothing wrong with continuing to be publicly front and center, for at least a while; all I was suggesting is that it wasn’t the only tack available, and in light of the course you took that there would naturally be a new question or two put to you.</p>
<p>Colm: Yeah I guess you’re right, but I’d much rather answer a few questions on CC than study for AP Physics… </p>
<p>well morrismm, this thread does have its ridiculous elements to it (the fact that it’s 19 pages…) but yes, I was deeply in love with Cornell, but as I’ve said before I sort of gave up on it after getting deferred (I sent a letter of interest, but I gave up mentally/emotionally) and I reverted back to Williams, which had been my first choice prior to discovering Cornell/HumEc.
But I agree, moving on would be suitable.</p>
<p>LOL, morrismm, the prestige factor was a nonfactor. In fact, most people I know had never heard of Williams and were shocked that I didn’t pick Cornell…
And Williams is tied for number one LAC with Amherst 
I would’ve picked Cornell if I went for prestige.
Also, I didn’t say Williams felt SO much better. I stated that it felt better in an intangible way, and that it was a tough decision.</p>
<p>Whew!</p>
<p>haha–purposefully said Williams was #2. He corrected me saying Williams is tied for #1 (which it is!) Just have a feeling this is most important!</p>
<p>Good luck to you!</p>
<p>“I still feel a sort of tie with Cornell, since after all, I’ve put a LOT into the application and post-application processes.”
I never wanted to say this, but for all those juniors out there thinking of applying to HumEc, I think this was the problem with Chandler’s ED application: He applied to CAS as a second choice. HumEc does not want you to apply to an alternate college. IMHO.</p>
<p>… I wish you the best at Williams, Chandler =)</p>
<p>Congrats on your decision Chandler! I wish you only good things! </p>
<p>The fact that this thread is on post #287 and has been viwed 10,258 times is mindboggling!!!</p>
<p>I have a comment on the above post:</p>
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So the HBHS major, after all, wasn’t the best fit (who knew?) </p>
<p>The admission committee who deferred you ED to Cornell. "</p>
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<p>I think that we all do not give the adcoms enough credit. We see a kid’s stats and say “why did they not get accepted ED, they were so qualified?” I think they are able to see that a student is more suited to another University and by either deferring or rejecting them, the student is then allowed to pursue those other options. If Chandler had been acccepted ED he would not be able to experience Williams, which seems to better suite him. In my daughter’s case (she was deferred ED and now has a guaranteed transfer) she will be attending the University of Miami which has an amazing Marine Bio program. When we visited the University it was clear to both of us that she was much more suited to the program at Miami. The marine school is out on Virginia Key, and as we were wading in the ocean next to the one of school’s research vessels, I thought “no way she could get this experience at Cornell!” She stressed her love of the ocean and her desire to do research in her essay. She can do this for four years at Miami. Thank you adcoms for understanding “fit” much more than the rest of us ever will.</p>
<p>^ Thank you, SVMMom and Ren. Actually, woody, I applied to CALS as my alternate choice. In hindsight, that was a GODAWFUL decision because A) I didn’t even want to go to CALS and B) I applied to their Biological Sciences major. It was an impulsive decision on my part. I definitely agree that applying to CALS alternate hurt my case for HumEc.</p>
<p>SVMMom: I think you’re absolutely right. I mean, if Cornell had accepted me ED I would have gone there more than happily for four years and never looked back. But getting deferred gave me the opportunity to look back and say “hey, I need to consider some other options”. I don’t think most of us will truly understand the fit piece until it’s way too late
UMiami’s program sounds absolutely amazing, I’m almost glad your daughter got a GT so that she can experience that. And I’m almost (very, very large emphasis on almost) glad I was deferred ED because that gave me the chance to see what I really wanted, which turned out to be more than just pre-med.
I don’t even think there is a Marine Biology program at Cornell: it sounds like Miami is a better place for your D, SVMMom. Good luck to your daughter, and I have nothing but the best wishes for her! Swimming in the ocean and learning at the same time sounds pretty idyllic to me.</p>
<p>Hi Chandler!</p>
<p>Cornell does have a marine program, but you have to do a summer session at Shoals Marine Lab in Maine. </p>
<p>Miami’s program puts an emphasis on undergrad research and EXPECTS you to hook up with one of their 100 research scientists and get published if possible. They have a diving club (biggest club on campus) where she can get certified and they have research diving classes. Many of her courses will involve field trips out on the research vessels. Hard to do that in the snow in Ithaca!</p>
<p>Have a great time at Williams! All the best.</p>
<p>Chandler and SVMMom - I think you are absolutely right. Some how this process really does work for the overwhelming majority of students. Good luck to all!</p>
<p>SVMMom, wow that sounds like absolute paradise. I definitely won’t be diving in the ocean while at Williams!</p>
<p>That sounds right up your daughter’s alley, I’m sure she’ll do amazingly.</p>
<p>Hope your daughter loves it!</p>
<p>woody: Maybe it does… but maybe it doesn’t. ;)</p>
<p>Congratulations, Chandler!</p>
<p>I wish you luck at Williams!</p>
<p>now everyone say their goodbyes and let this thread die!
(i love it when stuff rhymes :)</p>
<p>ah, you’ve made a decision!</p>
<p>have a great time-- college is awesome!</p>
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<p>I think this is a fair take on Cornell (as well as some other schools like Penn or Northwestern). They do tend to exhibit a lot more pre-professionalism than your average LAC, and it was something that bothered me a bit while at Cornell (especially in ILR). And it shouldn’t be a surprise that a major like HBHS would exhibit more pre-professionalism than your average biology major in Arts.</p>
<p>Within a semester or so, however, I was able to look beyond the pre-professionalism at Cornell and start taking advantage of all of the opportunities that were available to me. It also helped that I made a lot of other friends at Cornell who shared my attitudes towards pre-professionalism. We grew our hair long and scoffed at the grade grubbers.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, there are absolutely more non-pre-professionals at Cornell than at your average LAC. It’s a matter of percentages and how much you mind their presence on campus.</p>
<p>What was pretty funny was when I was back on campus two weeks ago for the lacrosse game. My friends and I had an awesome time rediscovering all of our favorite parts of Ithaca (as we always do every six months!), and we made a stop-in at the Dairy Bar. We had to laugh because we randomly bumped into a “pre-professional” crowd that was complaining about their school work on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. In all of our fond memories of Cornell, these people hardly register.</p>
<p>yeah, congrats!
I was waiting anticipatorily (is this a word) for the day when that “NY–> Williams '13 or Cornell '13” would get shorter =D</p>
<p>^ use the remnant of the locative absolute construction: you were “in” anticipation. </p>
<p>Three cheers for decisiveness!</p>
<p>“They do tend to exhibit a lot more pre-professionalism than your average LAC…”</p>
<p>IMO that is largely because only 1/3 of its undergraduates are studying in the “LAC” part, the College of Arts & Sciences. Many CAS students also have well-defined objectives, however there is no reason to suppose that this proportion is any different than at the typical selective LAC that has similar majors and programs of study.</p>
<p>^^ Linguistics freak much? Hahaha, I wish I knew more about linguistics. But I don’t.</p>
<p>One good memory I have of Cornell is when all the prefrosh went into Donlon (you know, THE Donlon) and everyone was scared of it. And then we walked into a dorm and everyone collectively says “Oh, it’s not that bad!”
And then we went to Dickson… lol</p>
<p>^ Yeah, but y’all didn’t go into the bathrooms…</p>
<p>Donlon showers are…there’s like this …trough thing… running through the backs of them…</p>
<p>I love the lounge though. So awesomely cold.</p>