"An Untimed SAT" - New York Times

<p>"It would also be hard for a young person to be knowledgeable enough, and good enough of an actor, to fool a psychiatrist. The same research and effort put into test prep would have probably given better test results, too! Again, this person should have been reported."</p>

<p>I've seen more-or-less my best friend fake it to a psychiatrist.</p>

<p>If you are dealing with an admittedly dishonest person, how can you tell to whom he is lying?</p>

<p>What did your more-or-less best friend fake and why? And if this doesn't bother you (and you didn't answer my question about reporting what abuse you did know of, so apparently you didn't), why does alleged abuse in getting accommodations lead you to want to deny accommodations even to those who DO deserve them? Another analogy for you -- people lie and get handicapped plates for their cars. Does this mean we shouldn't have handicapped parking?</p>

<p>Extra time is given to students who have accommodations they use in school. It's based on testing data. Psychologists who falsify data can lose their licenses. Instead of worrying about what someone else is getting that you aren't, you should work to do your best on the SAT. To deny someone with ADD or ADHD or learning disabilities extra time is petty and discriminatory. The SAT already denies most people accommodations when they request it. I would much rather someone who needs them get accommodations than worry about those who get them who shouldn't.</p>

<p>OMG we had to write an essay agreeing with, qualifying, or refuting this article in APLA last week. :)</p>

<p>I refuted it because it's bullcrap.</p>

<p>Sorry to say but sometimes there really isn't a clear line between one who has ADD and one who doesn't, it's scale of ability to concentrate. I qualified for extra time because apparently I have ADD, but I rejected my extra time and just worked on speeding up while taking the SAT and really focusing and I got a 2290 my first time I took it. I don't want to rely on Adderall my whole life and I don't think my future boss will be too sympathetic to the whole ADD thing, so yeah some really do need it, I'm not denying that, I just also know there is A LOT of gray area.</p>

<p>NyLibertine, I agree that there is often a VERY fine line between ADD and no ADD. However, to qualify for extra time on the SAT, I believe that you must be actively using extra time in every one of your graded classes. I admire your effort, but why use extra time on everything except for the SAT? and if you could get a 2290 without extra time, don't you think that there was little reason for you (and likely others like you) to even qualify for extra time?</p>

<p>EDIT: I mean, who's to say what kind of circumstances qualify for extra time? Being a standardized test, I believe that the circumstances should be kept as standard as possible. Honestly, why should a person who has difficulty reading/focusing/etc be granted extra time so that they can cope for their "learning dissability"? I read slower than most people, but I don't get any more time than the person sitting next to me when I do the CR section. I am not given the extra time that might put me on the level of another individual. Likewise, students that go to bad schools and haven't learned the material are not given a tutor during the test to compensate for their misfortune. Why then are students who cannot otherwise do the test as it was intended granted extra time as compensation?</p>

<p>theoneo,</p>

<p>I would be interested in hearing your basic arguments!</p>

<p>I have adhd my private school nearby my house that i go to is for special ed kids...like me with minor LDs and AD/HD kids have a choice 2 take 2 different sats during the year one in November...and may when the saturday comes nearby people has a chance to sign up for the regular sat at there local public hs or To take it the following tuesday completly untimed they could be there all day and miss there bus if they wanted to! I personally will try both...I will take my psat at my school this fall and In january i will take the timed sat at my local public hs and in may i will take the untimed one w/ my classmates...and if I want again the untimed one again in November or the timed one</p>