Another fraternity member dead....

I didn’t belong to a sorority and neither did either of my daughters. I did of course attend many fraternity parties in my day and this was at Cornell. The attitude there was definitely work hard/play hard and there seemed to be endless parties with the goal of getting people to drink to the point of passing out.

Fast forward and younger d’s high school boyfriend was pledging a frat at Michigan second semester of freshman year. Her spring break fell over St. Patrick’s Day and he was back at school where the pledges were required to stand of a street in front of their frat houses with the purpose of beginning drinking with the goal of being drunk beginning at 10AM.

Younger d’s roommate post-college was a high school friend who attended Cornell. Her wide circle of guy friends either beginning careers or in medical/law school would begin their weekend with the same goal… drink a six pack for breakfast and be drunk before noon.

@OHMomof2 As I said, we are a dry campus. But I doubt that these fraternities are following the rules of the insurance companies to allow drinking with minors present which would be expensive. I think that the female leaders of NPC are not for one minute fooled that allowing drinking in the house “for just 21 and over” (if your campus isn’t dry) won’t lead to serious consequences and illegal behavior. Now if the men in charge are choosing to look the other way on this illegal behavior (because who believes that all parties are run in accordance to the law and insurance regulations) then that is a reflection of their poor judgment. Just because someone jumps off a bridge doesn’t mean you follow.

I see Ohio State just suspended its frats today. Over hazing and alcohol, imagine that.

From 2010-15 seven sororities were suspended for hazing there.

@OHMomof2 That is sad that your Greek system in Ohio is out of control. NPC tries to help its members makes good life choices and the majority do. But like any group, even sports teams, members can violate rules and face punishment and expulsion from membership.

If you haven’t read this article in full from a few years ago and are a supporter of Greek life, I suggest you do. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/03/the-dark-power-of-fraternities/357580/

^And you know. Who cares what happens in Ohio. The girls in sororities reflect the population. Like I said, they’re not all angels. Misconduct happens everywhere. Heck there is a sex pest teacher reported every week it seems. I simply stated my personal viewpoint. I don’t want to change your viewpoint. None of my business. I think that overall the female leadership of NPCs do it better. Someone asked me before the rules changed, why the girl scouts were more inclusive than the boy scouts. I said because women are in charge. No to fraternities and yes to sororities for girls in my family except for places like Ohio that are out of control. Do what you will with people you are responsible for.

I don’t know why you would think it is just Ohio. @gearmom

New Hampshire

[quote] I woke up the following morning in the Intensive Care Unit at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center. I wasn’t alone. I later learned that three other girls had also been admitted, each having overdosed on alcohol due to hazing rituals. Two were fellow pledges, and one was pledging another sorority, Sigma Delta.

neither of us wanted to point fingers at our sorority and incur the social ostracism that would surely follow.

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/ravital-segal/hazing-dartmouth_b_1411932.html

New York:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/nyregion/amid-hazing-at-binghamton-university-cries-for-help.html

Connecticut:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-uconn-sorority-suspended-20140508-story.html

Georgia:
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2013/05/01/2126427/

Lousisiana:

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/education/article_e4b8267a-b2ad-11e7-8875-c3ca14961e7a.html

Seems pretty common:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/sorority-hazing-increasingly-violent-disturbing-college-campus/story?id=9798604

I agree that fraternities haze differently for the most part, more physical, more alcohol. But sororities have their hazing traditions too. I’m sure there are many that don’t do the bad stuff. But I’ve read enough to think they certainly do it too.