Another X vs. Y: Bama and Pittsburgh

<p>"“I would take Alabama’s geographic diversity with a little grain of salt as most of their students would come from, Alabama, contiguous states, or other Southeastern states:”"</p>

<p>While many OOS students do come from SE states, over 25% of the frosh do not come from the SE. It is rather unusual for a public univ to have 25% of its frosh coming from states that are not in their region.</p>

<p>That said, while nearly 40% are instate, many of those instaters are transplants and are also not from the SE because of the large number of professionals that have been transferred into the state because of Cummings Research Park. My own children were not exceptions. They counted as instate kids but were from Calif.</p>

<p>One of my closest friends moved from Hawaii to the Northeast for college and hasn’t left. She has adjusted to the weather just fine. </p>

<p>Okay. I’m going to try to reply to all of these, and it’ll make for a disorganized post but whatever. </p>

<p>I’m hoping to live somewhere in the northeastern area after grad school. Of course, this isn’t the most important thing: if the best job offer is from rural North Dakota, I’ll take it. The dream is doing something with Planned Parenthood in Washington DC or teaching at a small LAC up in the northeast, but again, I’ll take what I get.</p>

<p>I don’t think connections are nearly that important at this stage: I will be attending graduate school (going to apply to a lot of the schools I can’t afford/got rejected from) and it’ll be those connections and my work from the grad schools that’ll land me a job.</p>

<p>Climate? Well, I’ve lived in HI since kindergarten, but would really like to experience real winters. (I applied only to 1 school in a non-snow climate for a reason…) I think I can do tough winters, and either school will be a new experience. My reasoning is that if they’re really that bad, I only have to withstand four (or three) of them, and I’ll know that I have to live in California or Hawaii for the rest of my life. The less humid, the better, though. I do think that I’d prefer the city, probably because I live in a small college town now and am constantly bored out of my mind. Tuscaloosa is way bigger though, and I’m sure that I wouldn’t get bored there like I do here. I really do admire the intimacy and sense of community there is when the college is the highlight of the town, though. (YAY AMBIVALENCE – but literally half the colleges I applied to were slightly less remote than Williams, and the other half were smack in the middle of cities) </p>

<p>I’m sure I’d be politically fine at both campuses. I have liberal friends who go the BYUs and they find people to associate with, so if I go anywhere but Bob Jones, I think I’ll do fine. What’s concerned me more lately is the handling of sexual assault. Colleges that you’d expect to be more liberal (and thus have more male feminists), like Amherst and most recently Harvard, are getting reports of mishandling, and I’m curious as to how they’re handled elsewhere.</p>

<p>I’ll definitely try to get more info about the Honors Colleges at both universities by calling or emailing or something. </p>

<p>Regarding the finances, we could technically afford an out of pocket, aid-free education anywhere. We’d just run out of savings by doing that. My mom wants to pay only 1k per month (which is what she’d be paying if I went to BYU, but I think is kind of ridiculous because that’s like 1/4 of our EFC, but it’s not me who’s paying for this, so I guess I don’t have too much of a say, but I also do understand where she’s coming from because my parents do want to buy a house at some point). But they won’t pay for me to go visit a college for a day or two, which again, makes sense because that trip would cost about 2k. (Flying home for things that aren’t winter and summer break will also be out of the question.) I’m sure I can be happy at either college, but it’s ultimately a challenge of figuring out at which college I’ll be happier.</p>

<p>Yes, I was offered honors at both (but not UFE or CPBH (which I now regret not applying to) or Chancellor’s). I do like that Pitt offers that intro to research course and has things like the BPhil and BS (instead of BA) in social sciences, either of which I think would be advantageous in applying for a PhD right out of undergraduate school (I am terrified of dropping a lot of money on a Master’s degree and am hoping that I can get into some great PhD programs without going into immense debt). I haven’t seen too much on the Bama site on research outside of the CPBH program, which is a little concerning to me.</p>

<p>Oh wow, this was a long post. </p>

<p>Based on what you said, from not liking humidity and wanting snow, to wishing to relocate in the Northeast, I’d say Pitt is your best choice at this point. :slight_smile: Have you joined the FB pages for admitted students? </p>

<p>nhdmaniac I guess if you got into CBHP at UA that would have been hard to turn down (very highly selective), and yes that is spelled out. I have not researched UFE because that was not applicable to my DD who is studying civil eng and STEM MBA program (which she has been accepted to at UA, part of the honors college student offerings). The honors college would offer you many opportunities tailored to what you want in your college experiences. If you cannot find the info on-line, you need to call. When I have called honors college, I have talked to honors students, so again an opportunity for you to find out ‘from the horse’s mouth’.</p>

<p>I agree with you about PhD program (which my nephew did and I would have done if I continued in psychology), but that is out on the horizon - focus on the here and now with that on the back burner.</p>

<p>The primary thing for you is which school will be best for you? It only matters about ratings is if one school is ‘sub-par’. Neither school has that problem. If you do not even do some contacting to various depts at Pitt or UA, how are you going to find out which is right for you?</p>

<p>Occasionally a school will have a program that offers a few slots to incoming freshman for MD guarantee slot, etc. If Pitt offered you a slot guaranteed into a particular PhD program…but it doesn’t and you are not even 100% sure of exactly the PhD program ‘type’ or focus you want, although you seem confident it will be in NE.</p>

<p>Hey, why not venture with different parts of the country? It definitely would be part of your educational experiences; living in different parts of the country can expand how you think socially. </p>

<p>Many parents I have interacted with have been surprised about what AL (and UA) is, and also what it isn’t. Huntsville area (where I live) has a very high population of doctorate degree-holders and college graduates (and a smaller state university UAH, University of AL in Huntsville). Highly rated research park and many high-tech people - they all have families being educated in AL. It is like when H and I lived in Houston (no one was ‘originally’ from there). My kids are better educated than I was in WI through HS (and when we moved to AL, people in my hometown thought AL was shot gun houses and dirt roads, lol). We have interstate all the way to UA from here…</p>

<p>As another poster commented, over 25% of UA’s incoming students do not come from the SE. Diverse student backgrounds…</p>

<p>I agree with albclemom. Where do you want to end up after college? How fond are you of winter? Do you like cities?</p>

<p>This link was just posted by parent of this UA student who did this video. Interesting is that he is from HI. Very short video from a students’ perspective.</p>

<p><a href=“Sean - Hawaii on Vimeo”>http://vimeo.com/uaadmissions/review/90721971/de9f5af37e&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Here’s a late thanks and follow-up for everyone who contributed on this thread. </p>

<p>I went to the Bama reception. All the speakers were very compelling and helpful, but it didn’t completely sell me on the idea of going to Alabama. I visited Swarthmore (because they paid for it) last week and loved the weather and a bunch of stuff (but I’m not taking 80k in loans to go there, so…)</p>

<p>After a month of disappointing FA offers and contemplating UA and Pitt, I ended up depositing for Pitt yesterday. Academics are comparable, so I got to look at other factors of the colleges. It was a very hard choice, but ultimately the prospect of living in a city and being in the north was too much to pass up. My secondary college goals include soaking up as much cultural and music events and eating a lot of falafel and inexpensive, good Asian food (Panda is not good Asian food) in lieu of partying, so the city and Pitt Arts is important. (My initial dream school was Columbia, so it does make sense.) </p>

<p>The last month has been the scariest, perhaps most-anxiety-producing month ever. Between getting rejected, getting bad FA offers, coming to terms that I’m not going to be getting free food anymore, coming to terms that I’m going to be on my own in 4 months, experiencing crippling senioritis, and choosing between two awesome offers, I don’t know how I’m still sane. (Maybe I’m not.)</p>

<p>So again, thanks a bunch to everyone who has provided some feedback. </p>

<p>Besides the falafel and Asian food, you also get Primanti’s. Nothing like it in Alabama (or anywhere else). You will miss out on Dreamland and good BBQ, though.</p>

<p>Good luck to you, and Roll Tide anyway.</p>

<p>Yes, as Chardo mentions,there are lots of ethnic restaurants in Oakland -good Indian food , noodle shops, etc. And Primanti’s is, of course, a must. Congratulations on making the decision. Pittsburgh is a great city and hope you enjoy your time there.
Pitt is It !</p>

<p>so glad it’s over for you, OP. My D, too, chose Pitt Honors over UMD Honors. Same issues as you had with money and opportunities. It’s so stressful. I’m serious about helping with outfitting you if you wish. D’s doing neuro; what did you have in mind?</p>

<p>@jkeil911 I’m thinking political science and maybe math right now. Of course, there’s so much about multiple topics that I don’t know, and it’d probably be silly to commit to something. </p>

<p>Come October or so, I know I’ll definitely need some help in figuring out what to buy to stay warm. Sweaters and jeans will only get me so far into the year. </p>

<p>Congrats, @nhdmaniac‌! It sounds like you made a great choice. My son is headed to Bama but several of his middle school buddies apparently are headed to Pitt. Both schools offer great honors programs, but Pitt (the city and school) sound like a better fit for you. </p>

<p>Congratulations!</p>

<p>OP, you’re right about that. Take your time. Pitt is a good place to double major or invent your own major. </p>