<p>First off, does anyone have an updated issues since that one is a year old?</p>
<p>But basically Russia developed a weapon to destroy Aircraft Carriers, sold it to China, and it could possibly work its way into Iranian hands. </p>
<p>I think the world would be in a very bad spot if a U.S Aircraft Carrier was destroyed and sunk...</p>
<p>There was some posts about it, and someone commented how it may rise to nuclear warfare. SCARY!</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
<p>first off, let me just say that I'm still a candidate, not a mid or an officer. second let me also say that i haven't read the article.</p>
<p>all i want to say is, "Damn! That must be a powerful missile!"</p>
<p>I read more about it and it's apparently equivalent to the Tomahawk cruise missile. If the sources are correct, that is.</p>
<p>I heard a rumor that Russia/China was investing in a torpedo that traveled using a rocket. the head of the torpedo was designed that once it hit a certain speed an air pocket opened underwater slightly ahead of the rocket-torpedo which allowed the submerged missile to travel at jet-like speeds. Probably some sci-fi myth. I've heard amazing things about the Aegis Systems. One story I heard said that if you concentrated all the radar power on a plane (some hundreds/thousands of miles away) you could make the pilot sterile.
I have confidence the Armed Forces have a way to counter this threat. It's all up to the leaders of tomorrow to keep America safe from sizzlers and whatever those who wish to harm us can throw at us.</p>
<p>lol, that's one way to deplete a nation's military force - make everyone sterile...</p>
<p>I saw a thing on the Military History channel. The Aircraft carrier has so many ships that guard it, the missile would have to be quick and stealthy in order for it to actually hit and destroy the Aircraft carrier. They actually have this helicopter-type plane that flies above it and can detect missiles from a certain distance away, so it would be hard for a missile to really hit it.</p>
<p>Those torpedoes actually are very easy to counter. They are extremely loud and because they are based on a location/time...if the sub/ship slows down or alters course, then the torpedo will never hit its intended target.</p>
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Those torpedoes actually are very easy to counter. They are extremely loud and because they are based on a location/time...if the sub/ship slows down or alters course, then the torpedo will never hit its intended target.
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<p>then what is the DOD weapons testing office worried about and why are they threatening to block new ship construction?</p>
<p>DSL,</p>
<p>LongC90 posted an article about a MISSILE.
zanerdude09 posted a tidbit about a TORPEDO, that he had heard about.</p>
<p>These are two totally different weapons. No where in the article, posted by LongC90, is a torpedo even mentioned, so I am not sure how you made the connection. I was trying to answer/respond to zanerdude09.</p>
<p>oh. darn. you're right. missile=missile. torpedo=torpedo.</p>
<p>"Those torpedoes actually are very easy to counter. They are extremely loud and because they are based on a location/time...if the sub/ship slows down or alters course, then the torpedo will never hit its intended target."</p>
<p>Uh...maybe in WWII...</p>
<p>Modern torpedos are guided. Look up the Mk 48 ADCAP.</p>
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<p>Yep, and when that guidance system starts pinging, it becomes very loud and easy to counter. Something very much akin to turning into a SAM.</p>
<p>raimius,</p>
<p>Considering we learned about this kind of torpedo about two weeks ago, I am pretty sure my professor, who has a masters in Weapons Engineering and is second to the chair of the Weapons & Systems Department, wasn't giving us steam.</p>
<p>I'm no expert, but I doubt that simply slowing down a few knots would prevent a hit. Granted, IF the torpedo is nearing the limits of its range/turning ability, that would work. From what I've heard, a lot of it depends on whether or not the torpedo is being fed information from the launch source (submarine). Supposedly, the Russians are exporting a 200knot capable torpedo, which slows during the terminal phase to better track the target. Apparently, the export model does not have terminal guidance. So, changing speeds (if done VERY quickly) could defeat it.</p>
<p>So who else is a little scared with China right now? I know a guy whose company has pipe,steel and cement factories around the world. Turns out that China is going to shut down all of the industrial factories near Beijing for a few months this summer for the '08 Olympics. In his opinion it would be IMPOSSIBLE to start that industry back up in Beijing as the factory's customers have found other sources of supplies, valuable workers have found other sources of income, machinery issues, etc. etc. A lot of the country's income comes from these areas of industry. China's mindset is that if they can impress foreign dignitaries then more industry will come their way. What happens if China fails to impress anyone? I don't feel too good about a Nuclear China that has these new weapons. Their civil rights abuses are just mind-boggling too. I have a teacher that does missionary trips to China each summer who said that there were Cardboard cities in Beijing as big as large high schools. The tour guide assured her that these cities would be bulldozed, burned, and their occupants sent 30 to 50 miles out of the City and away from their jobs. Now beyond these accounts and what I've read I have no real experience. I want to know if you agree or disagree and why? With the unstable affairs in the middle east (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon...) Could the US military really handle a conflict in the Far East?
-Z</p>
<p>(Opinion warning)
China is pretty good at calculating industrial stuff...that said, they don't really care about their citizens, which is part of the reason they get so much flak from the west. You have to remember, this is the country that had people make home-made steel mills a few decades ago. The Chinese Communist Party is one of the smarter ones out there.</p>
<p>i studied the whole thing in world history- i don't really think that because ppl made steel during the cultural revolution has any effect on china today. today's china is a lot different. if they were still having ppl make steel in their backyards today, china would still be nothing today.</p>
<p>Well, it has no direct impact, but it does go to show the lengths the Chinese government has (and might?) go to in order to ensure their economy is where they want it.</p>
<p>It seems like a page out of a Tom Clancy military thriller novel. The U.S. dispatches the super carrier George Washington to discourage a Chinese attack against Taiwan or a North Korean strike. But the Chinese responds with three salvos of the exotic new DF 21D ballistic anti-ship missile. It looks like an old submarine launched ballistic missile thats been around for 20 years. But instead of a nuclear warhead aimed at a fixed point in the ground, China now has Jianbing-6 and YaoGan-2 satellites with real time imaging and radar to track the location of a giant carrier task force 2000 miles away. The warhead has its own cameras or sensors to see which target is the carrier and steer to it at ten times the speed of sound.</p>
<pre><code>The first just pierces the armored hull, but it starts fires and shuts down flight operations. The second hit knocks out its nuclear propulsion system, by which time there are air attacks by Chinese bombers with still more missiles. The third and final wave sends the multi-billion dollar George Washington to the bottom of the ocean. That scenario, carried by a Popular Science article first appeared in a pseudonymous article posted on Xinhuanet, website of Chinas official news agency.
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<p>Not likely…
The Popular Science article basically assumed everything the Chinese would want to happen in this scenario works and hardly anything in the US arsenal functions correctly…</p>