No longer the case. Op will have to be a high school graduate to minimally get in city/instate tuition.
Op would only be eligible for Excelsior if:
He is a US Citizen/Permanent resident
Be a High School Graduate
Be physically present in NYS 12 months before student starts college
Parents must also be NYS residents
Nope, actually the student has until June 30th of the year that they turn 21 to complete high school. If they need the summer to finish the school can allow them to go to summer school. However on July 1, the year that you turn 21, the NYC DOE can legally discharge you as a code 21 (student has turned 21 and aged out of the NYC DOE School system). However, most schools will allow you to attend summer school and will discharge you on the first day of school in September if you do not complete the requirements for your diploma in in August.
Basically what the title asks. Can’t find a good reliable source of information, it’s really confusing me (and also making me paranoid)
^ Op was in IGCSE pure math, ie., Intro to calculus (likely completed the equivalent of 1 semester of calculus ab). How can he explain he’s ready for that class?
On the other hand all Regents should be really easy compared to IGCSE’s - as long as s/he reviews the material. So, op should study hard to get the highest possible scores in all Regents offered that s/he can take (algebra, geometry, living environment, physics, English and if possible global history). Is there a way to know if specific IGCSE’s might exempt students from specific Regents?
Op completed IGCSE’S in spring 2017 (= 10th grade). Therefore he completed 9th grade in spring 2016 and would thus be hs class of 2019.
out a semester of A levels ‘count’ toward graduation requirements?
We still don’t know what AS op was preparing so we don’t know whether they might count or not - waiting to hear from op on that account.
Op, was your schooling in English? I’d assume so due to your taking English B and IGCSE’S (ie., British patterned exams, in English). I’d imagine IGCSE English B would qualify you for AP English language, although that’s dependent upon your gc (you could ask to be given a chance in AP Lang if they seem hesitant).
In any case, you’re within the parameters - you could graduate with a hs diploma.
Are you F2, H4, or a Permanent resident/citizen?
Op will have to sit for English, US History, All sciences. OP would need the 1200 minutes of lab in order to sit for the regents in science (and to meet the graduation requirements for science).
There is only a NYSED Department approved alternative the Op will get credit for will be Integrated Algebra (IGCSE). It will be the equivalent to a 65 on the regents. Op would be better served sitting for the regents because a 65 is not college readiness. In addition OP just took the exam. There is no longer an integrated Algebra regents. It is now the common core Algebra regents.
www.p12.nysed.gov/assessment/hsgen/archive/list.pdf
The school will review his transcript and credit him accordingly.
It is highly unlikely that Op is going to be placed in any Ap classes, mid-semester.
ETA: an F2/H4 visa will not make Op eligible for federal or state aid. This means no Pell, No tAP, No Excelsior, NO EOP or opportunity program. Op will be considered an international student in the college admissions process.
@sybbie719:
What would you suggest ?
OP is at AP level (IGCSE+ 1 semester of AS work is plenty to qualify for AP classes). Considering the A* grades, if OP can’t be placed in AP classes, what are his/her alternatives? Does NYS have a virtual school s/he could enroll in so that s/he can continue his/her education at the proper level?
Based on the IGCSE profile only, this student is ready for AP Physics C, AP Chem, AP Bio, AP Calculus AB, A English Language. (Obviously can’t take all sciences but should be able to handle one of the three).
(Based on the pass rate at the community HS s/he’s been placed in, it’s not like it’d really lower their rates, currently something like 90% students fail to get a 3 on average, and with A*s in several subjects, OP is likely better prepared than most at his/her HS).
As for COllegeNow!, if not possible for this term, then OP needs to get information ASAP about what s/he needs to do to take those classes through CollegeNow! over the summer.
What are the NYS rules for homeschooling?
Can homeschoolers take Regents exams at public schools?
Wouldn’t the lab hours for IGCSE’s count?
(OP took 8 units of lab sciences already and should have all the hours needed)
I agree OP is better off reviewing for the Regents exams and taking all exams he can, trying to score as high as he can. Compared to IGCSE’s, Regents in Algebra, Geometry, English, and Science will be a piece of cake as long as OP takes them seriously and prepares throughout January.
@ISowannacry:
1° Please list the AS you prepared. Last time I ask, after that you’re on your own.
2° Have you been assigned to the school already or not?
3° Ifthis were legal, would you be ready to be homeschooled as a 10th or 11th grader for this year and enroll next year only if need be? (It’d require you to be very independent in your learning; on the other hand, ALevels tend to require more autonomy than a US HS expects so you might be able to handle it). *if you enroll as an 11th grader next year you’d still qualify for a HS diploma.
4° What sort of visa do you have, or are you a refugee or permanent resident? This impacts possible/optimal choices.
5° Do you have a budget for college?
6° Do you have a photocopy, IN ENGLISH, of every syllabus (course content) for every IGCSE exam you completed? Do you have syllabi for the AS levels you studied this Fall, explaining how much of the syllabus you covered?
You must be ready to explain what the equivalent for each class is. GC’s will have a general idea but will not know the content for each class so you must be ready to explain.
7°Do you have a way to document the number of lab ours for each IGCSE science class you took an exam for, including any pre-IGCSE class as well as the proper IGCSE classes over the 2-year cycle?
As a stand alone option, that can be done outside of the scope of the school, No.
Op still has to meet the state requirements for graduation if s/he is attending public/nonpublic school in NYS. This includes Labs. Most schools have requirements for AP courses including selection, summer projects, etc. Students are usually not let into class mid semester.
Op cannot do college now without regents grades. Must demonstrate college readiness. There are also gpa requirements. Op does not have a gpa. Updating transcript for transfer credit will only allow CR or NC.
NYC DOE has an office for homeschooling.
However, most NYC DOE schools do not give credit for home schooling because of issues with assessment and evidence.
Yes, students can sit for a regents. They will be walk-in and accommodated if space is available However, homeschool students are not eligible for a diploma from NYC DOE or NYSED
No, students must take 1200 minutes of lab in NYS as part of the state’s science curriculum.
Since OP is turning 19 this year, following this plan, Op will most likely age out before completing a diploma. At his advanced age, the office of enrollment would recommend him to the HUB (probably in Queens) to take the GED because he will not be on track for his cohort graduation. It would be a wasted year as the high school does not have to take homeschooling credit and most likely will not take homeschooling credit.
If he sits out a year, can tell you unequivocally, the school may push back and not take him as a student, because he has already missed graduation with the cohort. While Op is entitled to an education from the NYC DOE, it does not have to happen in day high school.
Thank you very much.
So, homeschooling is out.
If this student shows college readiness through Regents taken this January in Math, English, Science (Living Environments and Physics), would s/he be allowed to
1° register for CollegeNow for summer classes? for Fall 2018 classes?
2° complete the lab hours through AP science classes with lab?
(the red words indicate that “students who take commencement-level classes in science must take lab hours”. But what about students who don’t take these classes? I can’t think that, with so many NYS students arriving midyear or mid-high school having taken science already, there’s nothing in place, or they’d all clog up the labs trying to get the hours…)
A good point for OP is that close to 90% AP students fail to get a 3 in AP exams at the school he’s been assigned to, so I don’t see what the school has to lose by letting him/her into their AP classes. He can show proper preparation and grades and would likely help pull their percentage up.
If the HS doesn’t have proper classes, what should the student do? Would a charter school be possible? Can dual enrollment outside of CollegeNow be envisioned? Can the Office of Enrollment (if OP goes there tomorrow) suggest a school that would be a better match for his ability and needs?
What about CLEP?
Can a student take TASC and as many AP classes as s/he wishes? Does the DOE take care of costs for AP tests taken by a TASC student?
SUNYs, CUNYs accept IGCSE grades though. IGCSE’s may not produce a GPA but it will produce a general result (this student is uw 4.0 with the most rigorous curriculum available and was likely on track for top universities - a lot of A*'s!)
Is his cohort the cohort s/he would have been in if he’d been born in NYC, or the cohort s/he was part of in his/her native country? (Because in his/her native country OP is class of 2019 - guessing he started 1st grade at 8.)
Is HUB a night HS? Does a night HS offer AP classes? Or IB or AICE?
No. The requirements for TASC has changed. You cannot be enrolled in day high school (no taking AP courses). You cannot take the TASC until you miss your cohort graduation date. Students who attend school to take the TASC are not part of day high school (therefore they must pay for AP exams, sat exams, etc).
Op cannot sit for any science regents without the labs. are given as part of the class.
YABC (night school) is designed for students who did not graduate with their class. It is not a diploma granting school (your diploma is granted by your home school). No AP courses.
As a student who is over aged, highly unlikely s/he will be picked up by a charter because they are not going to risk having student not graduate with the cohort especially when student is already over aged.
Op is 18 years old. Keep in mind that the NYC DOE is one of he few cities in the US that admits students in to high school over 18 (the compulsory age where a student must attend HS in NYC is 17.5). Essentially Op is going to be placed where there is an available seat. Because of his advanced age, he does not really have the luxury of picking where he wants to attend. Screened programs, testing schools programs rarely/if ever accept students after 9th grade. He will attend where there is a seat and will have to make the best of it.
You are part of the cohort based on the year you started 9th grade, any where in the world.
That will be part of the transcript that will be sent when op applies for college. If op does not have any, s/he needs to get a signed sealed official transcript from school in Bangladesh s that the school can have a certified copy of the transcript to send to colleges. What op presents to school will not be an official transcript that can be used for college unless it is signed, sealed and given in a sealed envelope with the school seal on he outside
So, since OP started 9th grade in Fall 2015 (IGCSE’s Spring 2017), s/he would be “overaged” compared to his/her classmates but s/he wouldn’t “hurt” the cohort progression rate for the school that admits him/her since his/her 9th grade cohort would graduate in 2019.
That is not necessarily true. You would have to see and evaluate the transcript and see where the credits fall
Op has missed a term of school (first half of junior year) which will make it challenging to graduate with the cohort. OP will have to make up the credits from first semester junior year
High school will evaluate credit and discuss grad plan with OP
IsoWannaCry, would you let us know how your meeting with the school goes (or went)? I am now super curious what courses and grade level you were placed in, and if you need to jump through any extraordinary hoops to graduate in a reasonable time period.
@IsoWannaCry : what happened? How are you?