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LlamaNade77 what @ which school does 80+% of a class get an F exactly? You're telling me that 80% of the class has a real live "F" on their transcript?
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50-66% Fs are not unheard of at my school...</p>
<p>Some of the upper level electronics courses here have a 60% as an A, which means rougly 50% of the class has around a 40% with a T-curve</p>
<p>Oh and I forgot my 63% I got on my Calc II final last semester. No curve, but I still got a B in the class. I'll update this as soon as I get my last physics test back, apperently a 60-70% is an A, sooo hahah</p>
<p>^ Man I was so ****ed when I got a B in Calc II. I had a A+ average before the final. Stupid comrade didn't curve the final at all!</p>
<p>Update: I passed Physics II!</p>
<p>I failed one of my intro to electrical engineering midterms tests, or at least barely passed it. I was freaked out into seriously studying for once.</p>
<p>Are the classes and exams in an undergraduate physics degree notoriously difficult as in an engineering program?</p>
<p>Nope. Engineering, at my school, is way the hell tougher (for the same GPA).</p>
<p>Hmm. I always assumed the classes and exams might conceptually be a little more difficult but not as intensive in workload.</p>
<p>I'm sorry guys but if you go to a school where 50% of the class gets an 'F' for any course (especially in the first 2 years of the curriculum) you need to look at either the students, the professors, or the curriculum. One of those 3 is failing at what they are supposed to be doing, and it has to change.</p>
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I'm sorry guys but if you go to a school where 50% of the class gets an 'F' for any course (especially in the first 2 years of the curriculum) you need to look at either the students, the professors, or the curriculum. One of those 3 is failing at what they are supposed to be doing, and it has to change.
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Do you understand the concept of a weeder? That's the goal. They want to eliminate the chaff.</p>
<p>What school do you go to, Payne? The worst I've ever seen (there is a difference between "seen" and "heard of" - are you sure the 60% statistic isn't urban legend?) is ~35% F's. And this place (GT) is notorious for weed-out courses.</p>
<p>Any professor that fails two-thirds of the class is absolutely nuts - weed-out course or not.</p>
<p>Son made a 52 on last physics exam--says the average was 60? We are hoping he makes a C in the course and maybe he will be pleasantly surprised if there is a nice curve!</p>
<p>my engineering classes have a strict no curve policy. so if the entire class gets a F then the entire class gets an F.</p>
<p>I go to Cal Poly San Luis. And it's with a single professor. This professor tends to teach a single class (all the sections for that class) for a year at a time. A very high percentage of the people coming through have taken him.</p>
<p>notre dame AL depends on how the school curves. Some schools will set the average grade to be a B/B- (or C+ if they want to be asses or weed some people out) and anyone that lands within the standard deviation from the average gets that avg grade.
Say you have a class curved to a B and an avg on the exam is 60 +/- 10 then anywhere between 50 and 70 is a B- to a B+. Closer to 50 is a B- and closer to 70 is a B+. Depends on how your school curves your son might actually have a B-, talk to the professor.</p>
<p>To all the previous posters - getting a 50 when the mean is a 60 isn't failing, at all. Unless the course is graded on an absolute scale, which would be ridiculous.</p>
<p>Zorz - that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. There's a not-so-fine line between being "tough" and acting moronically.</p>
<p>Mr. Payne - What is the professor's name? I find it extremely hard to believe that one professor can consistently dish out a median grade of "F" and the university just sits back and says "we'd like to weed out 50-66% of our engineering class." I'd elaborate (on the many reasons why a school wouldn't do that and on the many alternatives) but I simply don't believe you...</p>
<p>well live- thats how my school does engineering. I guess maybe you aren't getting a proper education. </p>
<p>My school of engineering in my department has a set down grading policy.</p>
<p>A 95 <= s <= 100
A- 90 <= s < 95
B+ 85 <= s < 90
B 80 <= s < 85
B- 75 <= s < 80
C+ 70 <= s < 75
C 65 <= s < 70
C- 60 <= s < 65
D 50 <= s < 60
F 0 <= s < 50</p>
<p>if the entire class gets below a average of 50 the entire class will get a F, just like in our EM theory class last semester, 3/60 passed., the rest got F's. Thats why when I say I study around 13-15 hours a day just to maintain a C, because it actually really is that hard.</p>
<p>Yea live is getting a crappy education at Cornell. :rolleyes:</p>