anybody know any way out of this?

<p>unfortunately, my parents- if you could call them that, the decrepit shallow incredulous people that they are- feel uneasy providing their information to a government site so i can fill out the fafsa or the css profile.....yeah doesnt that just suck for me</p>

<p>theres no way out of that is there?....without either of the forms im screwed, arent i?</p>

<p>no financial aid.......................yeah im screwed</p>

<p>life sucks</p>

<p>there is no other alternative to the two that i know of, and i dont yet have enough money to go independant without screwing myself for the next 10 years of my life</p>

<p>come to think of it , thats not really a question....its more of an dismal epiphone</p>

<p>no, you can’t get any federal aid without doing the forms</p>

<p>Hmmm… The federal government has a fair amount of all that information already, in various departments, so maybe your parents’ concern is something other than providing personal information to the Fed. Is it the online part they have a problem with? If so, perhaps they would file the forms in paper.</p>

<p>i imagine that the online thing is a problem, but that doesnt help much because i cant find the forms…the school doesnt have them,the site doesnt have them, no-one does and there are very few sources to ask about them…</p>

<p>so , maybe thatll be of some help but i doubt it</p>

<p>[Federal</a> Student Aid - Free Application for Federal Student Aid - Filing Options](<a href=“http://www.federalstudentaid.ed.gov/fafsa/fafsa_options.html#pdfFafsa]Federal”>http://www.federalstudentaid.ed.gov/fafsa/fafsa_options.html#pdfFafsa)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.federalstudentaid.ed.gov/docs/bw_English_fafsa_2009-2010.pdf[/url]”>http://www.federalstudentaid.ed.gov/docs/bw_English_fafsa_2009-2010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>[Completing</a> the FAFSA 08-09/The Application Questions(1-31)](<a href=“http://studentaid.ed.gov/students/publications/completing_fafsa/2009_2010/ques.html]Completing”>http://studentaid.ed.gov/students/publications/completing_fafsa/2009_2010/ques.html) instructions</p>

<p>i know im so dumb, lol</p>

<p>i found the pdf right after i posted here</p>

<p>thanks anyway all, ill try it that way</p>

<p>Out of curisosity, and just trying to help you – why is this any different than filing a tax return – you can do that either on line or with paper. I assume they file tax returns.</p>

<p>It is not unusual to feel uncomfortable providing such detailed info to faceless finaid depts and the middle men (FAFSA/PRofile) esp the application year when you are giving it to 5-10 schools.</p>

<p>No one wants big brother watching everything they do!</p>

<p>Rather than deprecate their concerns can you have your parents talk to a guidance counselor at school to be reassured?</p>

<p>“TO KAYF”</p>

<p>i know, i doesnt seem to be to be much of a problem does it…they do file tax returns but obviously use the forms, they wouldnt trust the net there either
ionically , i wasnt aware of where to acquire the fafsa forms and the office wouldnt help me either, and it wasnt until i bumbled around the site and someone else answered me that i noticed you could download the .pdfs…yeah , that was dumb, i posted the long dramatic question for nothing, and i couldve just printed them out</p>

<p>so in summation, my conflict is resolved, as long as they can mail it in themselves theyll feel better about doing it, and honestly they wouldnt do any thing over the net, and yeah the fafsa is a bit invasive to be a net thing, so i can understand, but thatnks for your time nonetheless…its appreciated</p>

<p>“TO SOMEMOM”</p>

<p>no offence, but i imagine you havent been in school for a while</p>

<p>y’see at my school, the guidance people do everything instead of their jobs…they are very little help, if any at all
they would barely help me, let alone me and 2 additional people
theyre absolutely worthless, just like the rest of the administration who dont know what theyre doing</p>

<p>but regardless, you tried to help me out, so thank you</p>

<p>Up until about two or three years ago, every HS guidance office in the country received stacks of the paper FAFSA forms so it was easy for students to get them. However, in a move to greater processing efficiency, the FAFSA people stopped making it easy to get the paper forms and concentrated on getting everyone to do the work on-line. Unfortunately this move means that for those people whose financial situation is extremely messy, or who don’t have ready access to the internet, or who just plain don’t trust e-filing, life got a lot harder because it has become more difficult to track down the paper forms. I’m glad to hear that you can print your own paper copies now with a PDF.</p>

<p>You aren’t alone with this problem. Good luck with the paperwork!</p>

<p>OP- sorry your GCs are no help, but it sounds like you have solved your problem!</p>

<p>Merit financial aid does not require FAFSA. You seem to be very articulate and should have no problems qualifying.</p>

<p>Some schools, like Harvard, offer their own financial aid that exceed the EFC. As such, the FASFA EFC score is meaningless to them (Gov aid is reduced by the amount of additional aid the school gives). You might be able to get by with the CSS only, which does not go to the Government.</p>

<p>Not true, some schools require FAFSA to be completed for merit scholarship eligibility. My DS’s state flagship for instance.</p>

<p>NYU also uses the submission of the Fafsa as a prerequisite for qualifying you for ANY scholarship aid (and they are a private ‘non full need met’ school that does NOT use the CSS Profile.</p>

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Most CSS schools, including Harvard, also require FAFSA for financial aid consideration. They use the FAFSA EFC to determine any federal aid eligibility. Where a student qualifies for federal grant aid (very low EFC) the Harvard aid is in addition to the federal aid, not instead of it.</p>

<p>Harvard may require FAFSA, but it is only useful for $0 EFC students. If you have an EFC of $2,000, then they will give you $2,000, but then that reduces federal aid by $2,000. Thus your need is $2,000 more, and so on, and so on, and so on.</p>

<p>I’m guessing if you tell them you don’t want to file the FAFSA, but will file the CSS, they may be accommodating for higher earning families.</p>

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<p>Classic isn’t it? Those who probably have the least accessibility, confidence or ease in using the internet, are also the ones who are likely in the greatest need for FAFSA. Let me guess: the IRS tax forms are still readily available everywhere in paper form?</p>

<p>wow
i never expected to inspire this much interst in my dillema
i really am touched that people like you actually care about my problems enough to ofer deliberations
so far youve all been really cool and ive got my problems fixed and ive adressed a few more in advance, so truly, thank you all, especially you OPERADAD for your comment, lol</p>