Anybody Seen Osama Bin Laden Lately?

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<p>Sonic booms? Booh hoo. Maybe then the Palestinians will understand what a schoolbus full of Israeli children blowing up sounds like and get fed up with those on their side that constantly perpetuate violence. Until then, more bullets, more planes, more choppers and more tanks to Israel! I would gladly have my tax dollars support the fighting of terrorists in Gaza rather than in America or Tel Aviv.</p>

<p>And before you jump on my back, I acknowledge that Israel isn't completely innocent in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel, however, is just the lesser of two evils.</p>

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<p>I want George W Bush to get the best armor protection to our troops in order to stop roadside IED's. These barbaric devices are killing and maiming our young men in arms. most of our casualties are from these roadside bombs. We need an exit plan. we cannot be in Iraq for 10 years.</p>

<p>We should conduct a communications war in order to win the war on terror. Wars are not always won by coercive military force.</p>

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Except for the fact that they can go to school now...and carry balloons...and listen to music...

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<p>Big deal… this unjustified war killed numerous lives and what is gained in returned? Music and balloons! This must be one of most pathetic outcomes of a war. Most Afghani girls don’t even go to school under Karzai. I am not saying that the Taliban was an effective government. Its just that this war didn’t have much reasons from which it can be supported.</p>

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Sure it does. We didn't ask them to give OBL to a neutral country, we asked them to give him to US. They didn't. He was a threat to us and they wouldn't give him to us, so we took matters into our own hands

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<p>Was there anything wrong with the Afghan’s proposal? The US cannot threaten or invade a sovereign nation just because they felt one man attacked them.</p>

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Right. And we were supposed to look into the future and see that we weren't going to happen? I'm pretty sure that nearly everyone thought that he would have been captured by now.

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<p>Well, I can bet he wont be captured at all under this administration. There isn’t any real effort behind hunting him down. So much for a war where the mission hasn’t been accomplished!</p>

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A government that can't guarantee basic rights to its citizens is a failure, </p>

<p>And a modern country in other words would be described as a first-world country, like the US, Europe, and yes, Saudi Arabia. Countries behind the rest like Afghanistan and Bangladesh would be considered third world.

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<p>I think you have gotten something wrong here my friend. Yes, the US, Britain and Saudi Arabia are first world countries while Afghanistan and Bangladesh is third world. But that’s based on income of the country. You claimed that a successful government is based on individual freedom. Under that reasoning, Bangladesh is more successful that Saudi Arabia since it’s a democracy with religious tolerance and women have equal rights (women ruled the nation for half of its existence). Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is not a democracy, no religious tolerance, and few rights for women. This is why your idea of a successful government doesn’t make sense at all.</p>

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Big deal… this unjustified war killed numerous lives and what is gained in returned? Music and balloons! This must be one of most pathetic outcomes of a war. Most Afghani girls don’t even go to school under Karzai. I am not saying that the Taliban was an effective government. Its just that this war didn’t have much reasons from which it can be supported.

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<p>Ok...I'm not trying to say that we went to war so that Afghans could carry around balloons. I'm saying that we went to war because we were attacked, and our previous actions (or inactions) had shown us that doing nothing would only lead to an escalation in the size and number of terrorist attacks on the United States. Schools for girls and religious freedom were not the reasons for our invasion, but once there we realized that we could have a positive effect on the country by creating a new stable and tolerant government.</p>

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Was there anything wrong with the Afghan’s proposal? The US cannot threaten or invade a sovereign nation just because they felt one man attacked them.

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<p>Sure we can. Just ask the UN or the countless other countries that went in with us. And we didn't "feel" that OBL attacked us, he DID attack us. Big difference.</p>

<p>And what was wrong with their proposal? It was bull*****. They didn't comply with our reasonable demands, and they ended up reaping the consequences of their mistake.</p>

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Well, I can bet he wont be captured at all under this administration. There isn’t any real effort behind hunting him down. So much for a war where the mission hasn’t been accomplished.

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<p>And we were supposed to use our magic future looking thinking caps to realize that we wouldn't be able to find him? Hindsight is 20/20.</p>

<p>And of course there has been effort hunting him down. Just ask any US soldier who has spent time in Afghanistan over the last 4 years. </p>

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I think you have gotten something wrong here my friend. Yes, the US, Britain and Saudi Arabia are first world countries while Afghanistan and Bangladesh is third world. But that’s based on income of the country. You claimed that a successful government is based on individual freedom. Under that reasoning, Bangladesh is more successful that Saudi Arabia since it’s a democracy with religious tolerance and women have equal rights (women ruled the nation for half of its existence). Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is not a democracy, no religious tolerance, and few rights for women. This is why your idea of a successful government doesn’t make sense at all

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<p>Let me rephrase then.</p>

<p>Modern countries=USA, Western Europe, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Japan, S. Korea, etc.</p>

<p>Countries with crappy qualities of life and infrastructure= Afghanistan, much of Africa, far Eastern Europe (some ex USSR nations), Bangladesh, Cambodia, Indonesia, etc.</p>

<p>Good governments= USA, Most EU nations, Canada, Australia, etc.</p>

<p>Bad governments= Former Taliban, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc. </p>

<p>Look at the similarities and differences between the four categories.</p>

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Let me rephrase then.
Modern countries=USA, Western Europe, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Japan, S. Korea, etc.</p>

<p>Countries with crappy qualities of life and infrastructure= Afghanistan, much of Africa, far Eastern Europe (some ex USSR nations), Bangladesh, Cambodia, Indonesia, etc.</p>

<p>Good governments= USA, Most EU nations, Canada, Australia, etc.</p>

<p>Bad governments= Former Taliban, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc.</p>

<p>Look at the similarities and differences between the four categories."

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<p>First of all, though the dictinction between those two sets of countries is correct, you cant compare their respective governnments since there are many lurking variables. For instance, the age of a nation is a factor. You cant expect a newly independent nation to be first world in a couple of years. Bangladesh is only thirty years old, compare that to the 250 year old United States. Poverty and success of government are two different categories. Also, quality of life and infrastructure has nothing to do with individual freedom of the citizens. You claimed that a good government is one that allows freedom. Apparently, you are contradicting yourself with your examples of Saudi Arabi, Indonesia, and Bangladesh.</p>

<p>I will respond to your other stuff later.</p>

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<p>And obviously, poverty leads to poor quality life and thus the difference.</p>

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<p>The ignorant C student from Andover & Yale gave a speech to stem the tide of Americans anger over his fabricated lies to justify the Iraq War for Haliburton Oil profits. The C student is no longer trusted by the majority of Americans as his pack of lies from his treasonous Administration has caught up with him finally. He's the most hated man in the world today and also by Americans.</p>

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<p>Why do Israeli people hate Simon Peres? Looks like they hate anybody who can actually bring the peace....</p>

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<p>Yes alien, all "Israeli people" are the same...
You are officially an idiot, just like your friend hardstyleprep.</p>

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<p>uhh, I never said ALL Israeli people. There are Israelis who hate Peres, and I was referring to them. Please UNDERSTAND before you post.</p>

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<p>First of all, alien_workshop made some VERY valid points. Hardstyleprep is insane. DaTurtle, you're a baby who believes the worls is anti-semetic. Like it or not, Sharon is no saint and he has his faults.</p>

<p>Hardstyle, Bush is an idiot. I know that. But Saddam needed to be stopped and terrorism must come to an end quick! please stop posting irrelevent articles.</p>

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<p>"Bush is an idiot"</p>

<p>Even us harcore republicans are starting to think that by now...</p>

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<p>well, he's not the greatest president, but I don't think I'll ever become a liberal. Saying banal things like "bush is an idiot" with no substantiation is akin to spewing worthless platitudes, so don't. Anyway, if by hardcore you mean a neocon, then ok; although you sound somewhat like a libertarian.</p>

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<p>The C Students Administration is filled with a bunch of liars & elitist who sacrifice poor Americans in this phony war based on lies for Dick Cheneys Haliburton. The whole fiasco in Iraq is based on lies & manipulation.</p>

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well, he's not the greatest president, but I don't think I'll ever become a liberal. Saying banal things like "bush is an idiot" with no substantiation is akin to spewing worthless platitudes, so don't. Anyway, if by hardcore you mean a neocon, then ok; although you sound somewhat like a libertarian.

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<p>Honestly, if you really find it necessary to debate whether Bush is an idiot, then it looks like you live in a cave. Go watch some news kid, you have alot of learning to do. No offense :)</p>

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Even us harcore republicans are starting to think that by now...

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<p>Yes, I am beginning to notice that. </p>

<p>Hardstyle, dont you think you're exaggerating a bit? LOL...</p>

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<p>Seth_Blue, the syntax in your post is laughable.</p>

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<p>Now the C Student is spying on Americans who aebitrarily falls under his vague description of potential "Enemy Of The State". The Communist Neo Con Bush is trashing the Constitution in order to consolidate total control from the Oval Office. Don't be surprised if the C Student sets up another 911 type disaster to thwart is steeping down at the end of his term. Martial Law & a Military Government was unthinkable until The C Student from Yale took over.</p>

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<p>Ariel Sharon must go down.</p>

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<p>"Now the C Student is spying on Americans who aebitrarily falls under his vague description of potential "Enemy Of The State". The Communist Neo Con Bush is trashing the Constitution in order to consolidate total control from the Oval Office. Don't be surprised if the C Student sets up another 911 type disaster to thwart is steeping down at the end of his term. Martial Law & a Military Government was unthinkable until The C Student from Yale took over."</p>

<p>And now the ignorant Hardlystyleprep is showcasing his/her idiocy for the world to see...</p>

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<p>Cuse, are you a Zionist?</p>