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College Search & Selection
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<p>I know this is kind of late, but I am not completely sure with where to apply.
I have already applied to a number of places that I feel satisfied with, but I am still looking for some extra schools to keep my final choice open.</p>

<p>My resume is as follows...</p>

<p>Freshman and Sophomore year I went to a magnet school which is known for sending students to Ivy's/MIT/Stanford/Etc. This school ends sophomore year and I then went to regular high school for my junior and senior years.</p>

<p>My Freshman year I earned a 2.14 GPA</p>

<p>My Sophomore year I earned a 3.03 GPA</p>

<p>My Junior year I earned a 3.72 GPA [AP US History, AP Language, AP Bio]. My regular high school runs on the block system, and there were not more than 3 AP classes for me to take.</p>

<p>Senior year I am taking AP Stats and AP Literature along with Marketing and Graphic Design [Both needed to graduate]. For my second semester I am doing all community college classes [Currently in Environmental Chemistry and US History III].</p>

<p>I will end up finishing high school with about 30-35 college credits [quarter system]. 5 AP Classes, and going to the magnet school.</p>

<p>Standardized tests were not good for me really, I earned a 25 on the ACT and 1610 on SAT. I also did Lit and US History Subject tests. </p>

<p>Extracurriculars
* VP Of Key Club [11/12th]
*DECA President [11th/12th]
*Environmental Club [11th/12th]
*Cross Country [9th/10th]
*Journalism [9th/10th]
*Iliad club [9th/10th]
*Quizno's [June 08-July 2009 15 hours a week]
*Cinemark Theaters [January 09-Current], I also just found another job.
*Internship at an Aerospace company [more of business aspect vs aerospace...]</p>

<p>Honors
* Most Improved Student [10th]
* AVID Award Winning Writer [11th]
*VP Of Month Key Club [11th]
*Honor Roll [11th/12th]
* 2008-2009 Leadership Award</p>

<p>I have already applied to UofArizona, ASU, UofWashington,WSU, Seattle U, Chapman, 4 UC's. </p>

<p>Accepted too: UofA, WSU, Seattle U.</p>

<p>I am looking for good schools that have good or great programs for business [hoping to do international law], and maybe a good law school. I am just looking for more schools to look into/apply too.</p>

<p>Thank You.</p>

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<p>Will your parents be able to pay full freight for school? If you want to go to law school you’ll need to keep your debt down during your undergrad. What is your state Public U?</p>

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<p>Are you instate for California? (Lucky for you that UCs don’t count freshmen year grades).</p>

<p>How much have your parents said that they will pay each year for your education?</p>

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<p>I live in Washington, so UC’s won’t be in state, I mainly applied to them to see if they would give any financial aid [if accepted].</p>

<p>And cost won’t be a huge issue, of course college will cost a good chunk of money, but my parents and myself already have plans on paying for it.</p>

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<p>UCs don’t give financial aid to out of state (OOS) students. :(</p>

<p>of course college will cost a good chunk of money, but my parents and myself already have plans on paying for it.</p>

<p>:) But do you kind of have a maximum annual budget? OOS students are charged between $40k - 50k per year for UCs. Is that ok?</p>

<p>$39,483, UC S CRUZ
$48,049, UC DAVIS
$49,193, UCLA
$49,926, UC S BARBARA
$46,699, UC SAN DIEGO
$50,306, UC BERKELEY</p>

<p>If your parents are fine with spending $40k-50k per year, then you have many choices. However, if your parents want you to keep costs to - say - $30k-35k per year, then you’ll have to consider schools that fit that amount.</p>

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<p>This is not true. However, even if they theoretically do give financial aid to some OOS kids, definitely don’t count on it this year (or for the next ten). UCs are NOT generous with OOS financial aid by any stretch of the imagination, especially when they are stuck in a big ugly yucky budget crisis.</p>

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<p>Thank you for the responses, the cost won’t be that much of a worry, it will be expensive no doubt but I will figure ways to pay it.</p>

<p>Anyways, UC’s aren’t very high on my list [getting in and cost], so I am just looking for other schools to consider that might be slight reaches/low matches for myself.</p>

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<p>^^ I disagree with raelah (and do agree with Mom2CK). There may have been some period when the UCs gave some merit aid to OOS, but to my knowledge never FA. Right now there is not even merit aid available for OOS students</p>

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While this is a noble sentiment it is not the best way to go about targeting schools. You should be looking at those you can afford that will challenge you. I’m glad you applied to your in-state publics. Those are some good schools and will be more affordable.</p>

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<p>raelah…</p>

<p>The only aid an OOS student would get “from” a UC would be federal aid, but only if they qualify for it. Sure, any OOS American student can get a Stafford, but I don’t think that’s what the OP is talking about. UC’s don’t give their own money to OOS state kids for FA. Some get merit money from the school, but not FA.</p>

<p>Since the OP is mentioning that his parents can pay for his education, it’s doubtful he’d qualify for free federal aid.</p>

<p>OP Quote: *I will figure ways to pay it. *</p>

<p>I agree with Erin’s Dad…that’s a noble feeling (and many kids do feel this way), but the reality is that unless your parents are going to pay for nearly all the costs, it’s very hard for a young person to come up with large amounts of money for schooling.</p>

<p>Do you know EXACTLY how much your parents will contribute each year?</p>

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<p>Yikes, where to start…</p>

<p>OP, you seem like a really nice person. I like that you have high goals (international law), and I especially like the character you showed in improving from a C average to a B average agsinst stiff competition in 10th grade… you have the never-give-up attitude that will take you far in the real world.</p>

<p>However, three points of concern for me:</p>

<p>1) you are not a great standardized test taker
2) your unedited writing is not the best
3) your grades are strong against average cometition but not so against higher level competition</p>

<p>I’m not intending to criticize you, but you did mentioned law school and this post is an attempt to level set your expectations – and suggest you concentrate on doing the best you can in your first year of college and let everything else naturally work itself out from there. Law school is really hard to get into if you’re not a great test taker, and your grades against stiff competition are not well above the average. But let’s say you DO get into a law school, pay your $150,000 or so for the three years. Here in California (cannot speak for Washington) we have a pesky litle standardized test called the Bar Exam. I have known several “special” admits, affirmative action, whatever you want to call it, who didn’t have the best test scores and gpa, were admitted to law schools in California, and could never pass the Bar Exam even with 5-6-7 tries and untimaley never practiced law. That’s why I mention your performance on standardized tests… caveat emptor.</p>

<p>Having said that, the University of Washington is a top 50 ranked University, #42. UDub is not discussed much on this BB, but it is highly regarded especially at the Ph.D. level. That sounds like a great match/reach for you. U of Seattle is a fine school with smaller classes and more professor interaction, but I personally feel it is not worth twice the price (or even the same price, depending on your personality) and likely considerable debt compared to UDub. Washington St. is in my mind about the same quality of Seattle U, again at half the price.</p>

<p>Oh, and I triple the comment on “I will figure out a way to pay for it”. Your parents may be willing to sacrifice part of all of their retirement resources for your undergrad and graduate expenses, but … are you OK with that? Life is full circle. At some point, whether that be in 15 year, 30 years, 40 years from now, your parents well being (physical, financial) becomes YOUR responsibility. Do you want to be supporting them because they spent all their retirment savings on colleges that cost twice what Udub would cost? Just something to think about… life is truly full circle.</p>

<p>I don’t know Washington state well, so I do not know if there are other good Public University options besides UDub and Wash. St. Here in CA, many go the back door route into UCLA, Berkeley and other UCs (actually 40% of the graduates of UCLA came through community college) via community college. Living at home and attending Santa Monica College or other JC saves families 75% (approx $5k vs. $23K) in the first two years compared to attending UCLA and living on campus all 4.5 years (ave. time to graduate).</p>

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<p>I don’t know if the OP just wants to go OOS or what. I wonder if there is a specific reason that he’s not applying to UW…maybe too many classmates will be there and he wants a change.</p>

<p>While his ACT is not awesome, it’s about the 80th percentile - ok for many schools. I wouldn’t say that just because his ACT isn’t in the 90th+ percentile that it means he won’t do well on the LSAT or on the Bar Exam (Calif’s Bar exam is reputed by some to be the most difficult).</p>

<p>If the OP is a dedicated student in college, I think he can do well in whatever his chosen profession is. :slight_smile: I suggest he take some philosophy courses which will help prepare him for a legal career. Philosophy courses are wonderful at helping develop critical thinking skills.</p>

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<p>The OP said he applied to University of Washington</p>

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<p>ooppsss…thanks…</p>

<p>note to self…wear reading glasses. </p>

<p>I saw the Wash St, but not the UWash</p>

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<p>Have you looked into Evergreen State? I’ve heard good things about it.</p>