<p>what would 5s in the following APs place you out of at princeton
Biology
US History
Literature
Statistics
Art History </p>
<h2>Psychology </h2>
<p>Which classes are worth placing out of? Or is there no benefit of placing out of any course?</p>
<p>Maybe you’re new to the interweb, but there is this thing called Google!
[AP</a> Credit Overview - Advanced Placement and Advanced Standing](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/pub/ap/]AP”>Advanced Placement Class of 2027 | Office of the Dean of the College)
[AP</a> Credit Reference Table - Advanced Placement and Advanced Standing](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/pub/ap/table/]AP”>Advanced Placement Class of 2027 | Office of the Dean of the College)
<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/academics/advanced_placement_and_st/[/url]”>http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/academics/advanced_placement_and_st/</a>
<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/preparation/advanced_placement/[/url]”>http://www.princeton.edu/admission/applyingforadmission/preparation/advanced_placement/</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/897629-ap-credit-princeton.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/897629-ap-credit-princeton.html</a></p>
<p>I could go on . . . but I think you get my point.</p>
<p>^how in the world did your response address what was probably the more important and broader question the OP posed, i.e., the worth of a top score on APs tests. Should a student place out of a class or not if he/she has the score to place out?</p>
<p>This is a great topic to bring up and, depending upon the school may have different answers. </p>
<p>The only ones prepared to answer are actual students (present and recent past) at the school. Let’s hope some will chime in.</p>
<p>[AP</a> Credit Reference Table - Advanced Placement and Advanced Standing](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/pub/ap/table/]AP”>Advanced Placement Class of 2027 | Office of the Dean of the College)</p>
<p>^^ It’s called chart reading! If you go to the above chart, scoring a 5 on an AP will give the OP different outcomes depending upon the test. Some tests, like US History, give no AP credit, nor advanced placement. Whereas, scoring a 5 on BC Calc will place you in an advanced class.</p>
<p>^gosh, you really don’t get it. </p>
<p>The chart gives a student the ability to cash in. That is the first part of the question.</p>
<p>The second part of the OP was whether it would be worth it if one had the ability to cash in the AP. The answer to that question cannot be gleaned from a chart; rather, it requires input from people who have cashed in or not cashed in potential AP credit.</p>
<p>Gibby, why so snarky?</p>
<p>Stemit, yes. I agree that is a big part of the OP’s question. </p>
<p>My D was happy to place out of a lab science class with her 5 on AP Bio and focus on other science classes she wanted to take.</p>
<p>The situation is that we, a friend and I that both got into princeton scea, have to pay for our AP tests and we wanted to know if it was worth paying the money. We are pretty confident about getting 5s if we study. We just want to know if it is worth the time, money, and effort. </p>
<p>So if anyone has any advice on which APs are helpful at princeton, please feel free to post even if it isn’t an AP I listed. </p>
<p>I would love to know if it is worth self studying something like calc bc if you are a math major, which my friend is, or is it better to build a foundation at princeton then to study for a nation wide curved exam.</p>
<p>Your SCEA acceptance is based upon the successful completion of your senior year course load while maintaing your GPA. If you are enrolled in an AP class, that means taking the AP test. If money is an issue, you and your friend can apply for a fee waiver. Before deciding NOT to take an AP test, I would speak to your guidance counselor, who may have to contact Princeton Admissions to get their prior approval. Now that you’ve been accepted, you do not want to do anything that would potentially rescind your admission.</p>
<p>If you listed AP courses on your app, then yes you need to take the tests. They will be expecting you to complete the course and submit the exam results - we know this first hand from last year when my son was accepted SCEA - we contacted admissions and this is the information we were given. </p>
<p>FWIW, you need to weigh carefully whether you will use AP courses to place out of courses. Be aware that at least with math courses, the AP courses will allow you to place out (AP Calculus AB for MAT 103 and AP Calculus BC for MAT 104) however they do not cover the material nearly as thoroughly as the courses Princeton offers. It’s quite a common practice, from what I understand from my son, for students to take the AP courses and then still take the Princeton courses that they would place out of (my son did this also). A number of students in his physics class already took AP Physics, for example. For them it serves to alleviate some of the stress of transition that most students experience adapting to life at Princeton - particularly the varsity athletes (such as my son). </p>
<p>Some students use AP courses to place out of classes but most need to work incredibly hard to do the next course effectively. The plus of having completed AP courses is that for the maths I listed above, you can move onto more interesting courses that you would prefer to enroll in. This eliminates the dreaded problem sets associated with the course. However you may need the depth of teaching that Princeton offers if you plan to pursue the subject aread beyond covering a prerequisite. Your academic advisor will help you make that decision in light of your overall course load and committment level in other areas.</p>
<p>I would recommend placing out of MAT 103/104 with your calc AP’s, only because the math you’d be doing as a math major is probably quite different. It’s a tradeoff; you’ll have a perhaps less solid foundation, but you’ll also get to take more high level classes more quickly. Also, most students have calc BC as freshmen…</p>
<p>OTOH for some courses, like Bio, you’ll probably want to take the princeton intro course, because jumping to the next level might be too difficult as a freshman. IMO the best thing to do is to take the APs, then figure it out once you get here in the fall – then you’ll have options, and you can hunt down upperclassmen who had to make the same decision for the specific classes you’re considering.</p>
<p>So I got into Princeton SCEA,
and I am currently taking six APs.
None of them is substantial according to the charts.
I can’t really place out of classes with them, and neither do I want to (I’d rather redo the classes and learn the material more thoroughly).</p>
<p>Should I still take the tests? Like the OP, if I study, I will definitely receive 5s on all of them.</p>
<p>But I’m wondering: why go through the extra stress and money for tests that won’t really benefit me? After all, wouldn’t receiving an A in the class be sufficient proof that I really did try?</p>
<p>I would speak with your guidance counselor, who may need to call Admissions and get their okay for you not take the AP tests.</p>
<p>“Why go through the extra stress and money for tests that won’t really benefit me? After all, wouldn’t receiving an A in the class be sufficient proof that I really did try?”</p>
<p>See: [Why</a> 50% of Students Fail AP Exams and How to Change That | Fox Business](<a href=“http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/04/25/why-50-students-fail-ap-exams-and-how-to-change-that/#ixzz2H980bsHY]Why”>http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/04/25/why-50-students-fail-ap-exams-and-how-to-change-that/#ixzz2H980bsHY)</p>
<p>"[Sally] Rubenstone [Dean of College Confidential] adds that a growing number of high schools are requiring the AP exam for all students who take an AP class, “or the school will not put the vaunted “AP” designation on the transcript if the student bails on the exam.”</p>
<p>I would expect there to be no consequence to skipping the AP tests.</p>
<p>If you’ve already been admitted SCEA, why not ask admissions? I was admitted EA to some schools senior year (not Princeton – we didn’t have EA then!), and when I asked about changing my schedule to something less rigorous those schools said they were totally fine with it. So, similarly, Princeton admissions might be able to confirm that you don’t have to take the tests.</p>
<p>If they aren’t substantial tests (e.g., AP US won’t get you much here), why take them? You should be fine.</p>