<p>Thank you. Son is away and called home. He was pleased scores were up and very pleased with his scores. All 8 of them!!</p>
<p>Again, thanks yulsie.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>Iderochi,</p>
<p>Same happened to me - seems they had not entered D SS# into system. If you call the customer service number, they can give you the required AP # and then you can use the automated system to get scores.</p>
<p>evitajr1, my son's AP US Govt & Politics score was available yesterday when he called.</p>
<p>Woohoo.. got the scores I needed.. Thanks for the heads up!</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link to a website that let's you know the criteria for being an AP Scholar, and the various other designations for kids who take several and do well? Thanks!</p>
<p>Here it is, Nester</p>
<p>Thanks Ohio_mom!</p>
<p>Thanks ohio-mom! I learned from the site that my D is an AP scholar with distinction!! Cool!</p>
<p>Well, I am sorry that I found out about my daughter's grades. She got all "2s" on three exams! I didn't think anyone can fail three AP exams,but she managed to do it. She even studied hard for them. However, she seems to totally stress out when taking major exams to the point where she doesn't function well. </p>
<p>I wonder what percentage of kids fail to pass 3 or more AP exams with "3s,"yet do well in the course.</p>
<p>I don't know about the numbers, but I know many kids who are great students and study hard for these standardized tests, but for whatever reason just don't tend to do well on them. Your D is definitely not alone.</p>
<p>taxguy:</p>
<p>to answer your question, I randomly picked several popular ap's and it appears that 30-40% of testers receive a 1 or 2 (40%+ was for Calc, Physics B & APUSH). Note, however, that US Govt had a 48% fail rate....a lot of senior-itis?</p>
<p>APUSH link:
<a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/history_us/dist.html?ushist%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/history_us/dist.html?ushist</a></p>
<p>Bluebayyou and Bananainpyjamas, if roughly 40% get 1s and 2s then I would think that the chance of getting under a 3 on three separate exams are:</p>
<p>.4 x .4 x .4= .064 or 6.4%. Now admittedly the World History, AP English and NSL may have a bit lower pass rate,but I would estimate that three failures put my daughter in the bottom 6% or so. She was definitely upset, especially since she got all As and Bs in these courses.</p>
<p>I'm not a math person, so forgive my ignorance, but is that calculation valid? It's not that someone has a 40% chance of failing an AP (implying that everyone has an equal chance at failing), it's that 40% do, for a variety of reasons varying from apathy to perhaps being bad test takers. So I'm not sure that you'd multiply them together and conclude that your daughter is in the bottom 6% of all students that took AP exams. </p>
<p>Also, many people do not take more than one or two APs. If you have a group of students that fail 100% of their APs, whether they took one, three, or seven, can you really tell which among them is "worse?" At least she challenged herself by taking three exams. I would just try to look at the situation as it pertains to your daughter and not compare her to the rest of the country. </p>
<p>If I may ask, what grade is your daughter in and has she taken APs before? If this was her first time, it's possible that you could try to recreate the testing situation (once she is less upset, of course) and try to pinpoint what exactly is stressing her out and ways she might counteract that stress. My friend had a similar problem, and after learning some relaxation techniques, she became a much better test taker. Could be worth a shot. :)</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up. I wouldn't have checked if I hadn't been reading CC. My d is happy--I'm happy!</p>
<p>She is a rising Senior. She failed two of the APs this year and one last year. Yes, I am happy she chose to challange herself with these courses,but I am saddened for her as to the results of all that work.</p>
<p>Stress therapy and relaxation techniques would not be a bad idea. I will definitely need to look into this. She tends to be a perfectionist. If something is wrong, she will tend to dwell on it. This happened on the SAT. She had a tough time on one section and dwelled on this in the next section. Yes, I know it was idiotic to do it and so did she. However, she did what she did.</p>
<p>Taxguy: Banana is correct about the Math. This is a test taken by an individual, not a random event that you can sample or a group that you can analyze with a bell curve.</p>
<p>taxguy:</p>
<p>I don't know that I would do the math that way, either;but, nevertheless, its no doubt extremely frustrating after a year of hard work. </p>
<p>The question I would ask is how did other students in the classes do? What is your HS pass rate, at least for those courses? (The national average pass rate is ~60-65%.) Do the teachers properly prepare the students, i.e, AT LEAST a 65% pass rate in the class. (I'd prefer to see a 40 rate of 4+, but that is just me.) For example, one teacher in our HS is a notoriously easy grader and requires little hw -- needless to say, seniors (with -itis) flock to the course, but do not take the ap test. Of those that do take the test, the pass rate is much lower than the other teacher teaching the same ap course.</p>
<p>fwiw: WH has a 45% no pass rate, English Lang is 41%, Eng Lit is 34%, and NSL...??? (Span Lang, Span Lit?)</p>
<p>Taxguy, you can often look to the school and teaching when kids do well in the class and poorly on the exam.</p>
<p>I know one of the graders, and she said that one of the essays used terminology that isn't used much - perhaps has to do with the textbook used? (They don't see the questions until after the test is given) Anyway, all he students, and my D, who tutored under her, all had problems with that one essay. Perhaps this affected the outcome percentages of the Govt. test. I hired the tutor, because my D did not feel prepared for the test by her teacher. This definitely would affect the score.</p>
<p>taxguy,
Did your daughter also take the SATIIs for these subjects so you can do a comparison? I would also look at her class as a whole to see if perhaps the school isn't preparing students well enough. My daughter didn't take her Art History AP test because she fell behind due to illness and didn't have time to catch up on her own to the level she needed. Her class felt unprepared for the AP exam because this was the first year AP Art History was taught and expectations for 4s and 5s were low (haven't heard the results yet). OTOH, My son just took his AP Bio exam and got a 5 (SATII - 760). He felt VERY prepared for his exam - in fact I didn't see him study at all for it. But his Bio class was challenging all year long, with the average grade in the 70s. In fact, in our HS, a C is an average grade in AP classes (and these classes are limited to the top academic students). Maybe your school's classes aren't at the same level - which is unfortunate for the kids who do all that is asked of them, but may not be exposed to enough of the material. My son did mention that the AP questions were much harder (not always sure what they were asking) than the SATII and his practice AP exams. </p>
<p>Tell your daughter not to worry too much about it. She will still look good to colleges because she took the AP classes and did well in them. I don't think she needs to report her AP exam grades (some students don't take them due to cost, etc). My d also has trouble on some standardized tests. She totally stressed out about her SATs but it all worked out fine, getting into her top choices, Syracuse and RIT. Probably should have applied to CMU with her 4.0 GPA but worried her verbal SAT wasn't high enough. Looks like colleges were more interested in her GPA and her portfolio than her SATs.</p>