APPLICATIONS GROWTH Class of 2012

[Alumother]

<p>Does anyone know Rice’s numbers this year?</p>

[rodney]

<p>“Expect to see a lot more use of the waiting lists by many of these colleges, and probably later and later in the summer than ever before.”</p>

<p>…and then trying to figure out what to do about this as well…So much for making plans…Isn’t it John Lennon who said,</p>

<p>“Life is what happens when you are busy making plans”?</p>

[hawkette]

<p>I have been searching for the Rice data as well. Rice puts out a lot of nice information on their 2007 admissions process, but nothing yet for this year. Hopefully, we will see something soon from them…</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>UC Davis 15%
UC Merced 15%
all UC’s combined 9% (unduplicated, so the actual number, when looking university to university, is probably higher)</p>

<p>[UC</a> Davis News & Information :: UC Davis Leads UC Gains in Freshman Applications](<a href=“News, Magazine, Experts and Media Resources | UC Davis”>News, Magazine, Experts and Media Resources | UC Davis)</p>

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A record high nearly 49,000 high school seniors, prospective transfer students and others applied to study at the University of California, Davis, for fall 2008 – a 15 percent increase over fall 2007.</p>

<p>A total of 48,653 students applied to UC Davis, compared with 42,311 applicants for fall 2007. There are 40,568 applicants for freshman status this fall, a 15.6 percent increase from last year’s 35,088 and the largest percentage gain in freshman applications among UC’s nine undergraduate campuses.</p>

<p>A total of 8,085 applicants are seeking to transfer from another college or university, for an 11.9 percent increase from last fall’s 7,223.</p>

<p>The overall percentage gain in applications was 15 percent, second only to Merced, at 15.4 percent, among the UC campuses.</p>

<p>Applicants from traditionally underrepresented groups account for more than 21 percent of domestic freshman applicants and almost 19 percent of domestic transfer applicants from a California community college. Last year, they accounted for about 19 percent in each applicant group.</p>

<p>“We are happy and proud of the growing popularity of the UC Davis campus and the increased diversity and quality of our applicants,” said Pamela Burnett, director of Undergraduate Admissions at UC Davis. “We believe these gains reflect, in addition to increases in the state’s college-age demographics, greater public awareness of UC Davis through additional efforts we began three years ago.”</p>

<p>Systemwide, UC unduplicated applications are up 9 percent overall, from 110,994 for fall 2007 to 121,005 for fall 2008. A total of 95,201 students applied for freshman status, for a 9.2 percent increase over last year’s 87,213. Among transfer applicants, there was an 8.5 percent increase, from 23,781 last year to 25,804.</p>

<p>For 2008, the California Department of Finance projects an increase of 3.2 percent among graduates from California public high schools.

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<p>These data provide a convenient sample perhaps of the entire college-bound application phenomenon…Interesting that there is a 3.2% increase in supply, but a 9% system-wide increase in apps. So, a simple interpretation could be that 3% (or one third of the total increase) is due to the demographic factor of greater supply, and the remaining 6% (or two thirds of the total increase) is due to other facors like greater number of apps/student.</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>up 16%</p>

<p>[For</a> LSU’s Lombardi, the tables have turned - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2008/01/27/for_lsus_lombardi_the_tables_have_turned/]For”>http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2008/01/27/for_lsus_lombardi_the_tables_have_turned/)</p>

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Northeastern University has seen its applications surge 16 percent for next fall’s freshman class, a nearly 5,000-student increase that stunned admissions officers.</p>

<p>“We were definitely a little bit surprised,” said Ronne P. Turner, dean of admissions. “We were expecting an increase, but we weren’t expecting this.”</p>

<p>Turner attributed the record number of applications - more than 35,000 - to expanded recruiting efforts in the West and South that have helped raise the college’s national profile. Applications from the West Coast, for example, have increased tenfold over the past decade.

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[JHS]

<p>Nationally, the increase in high school graduates is considerably less than 1%, not 3%. So it can’t account for a whole lot of the increases across the country.</p>

<p>The 2006 Census projections – <a href=“http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/07statab/educ.pdf[/url]”>www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/07statab/educ.pdf</a> – have U.S. new high school graduates increasing by only 13,000 from 2007 to 2008, but undergraduate enrollment in four-year colleges increasing by nearly 200,000 each year from 2007 to 2008 to 2009. So clearly there are people coming into the system – older people, foreign people – from places other than U.S. high schools. Also, on a base of at least 2 million freshman applicants, it wouldn’t take a huge increase in the number of applications each files to make applications numbers blow up they way they have.</p>

[anotherNJmom]

<p>imo, the vastly increasing of % applicants across schools should largely attribute to the increasing number of schools that each applicant applied. Now with increased number of common app schools and electronic filing system, never before filing application to college had become so convinient. non other single factor could be counted to such a large increas % of applicants across the board compared to a few years ago.</p>

[midmo]

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non other single factor could be counted to such a large increas % of applicants across the board compared to a few years ago.

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<p>The % increases are not “across the board”. They range from 0% to 30%. Since the average number of applications per student to top schools probably has increased, the low % rise in applications to some of the schools on the list in post #188 are interesting, IMO. (Although I am not considering raw numbers here. Still, zero is zero at Penn.)</p>

[Sam_Lee]

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Northeastern </p>

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<p>up 16%

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<p>In few years, there’ll be no more joke about Northwestern getting mistaken!!! ;)</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

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California’s public universities – every single one – are fielding a record number of undergraduate applications when many schools are reducing spots for incoming students.

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<p>UCLA up 10%
San Diego State up 6%</p>

<p>[The</a> Daily Californian](<a href=“http://www.dailycal.org/article/100146/uc_sees_jump_in_number_of_applications_for_fall_20]The”>http://www.dailycal.org/article/100146/uc_sees_jump_in_number_of_applications_for_fall_20)
[SignOnSanDiego.com</a> > News > Education – University applications far outpace openings](<a href=“The San Diego Union-Tribune: Local News, Sports and Things to Do”>The San Diego Union-Tribune: Local News, Sports and Things to Do)</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>appears to be some updated numbers in this Amherst student newsletter, although this is second hand info…I have not independently verified these new numbers…
[The</a> Amherst Student | News | Regular Applications Increase 17 Percent](<a href=“http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/current/news/view.php?year=2007-2008&issue=14&section=news&article=02]The”>http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/current/news/view.php?year=2007-2008&issue=14&section=news&article=02)</p>

<p>Amherst 17% (no change)
Harvard 19% (up from prior report of 18%)
Yale 17% (no change)
Chicago 18% (was 20% previously reported, I’d bet 20% is more recent)
Dartmouth 14% (up from prior posted 11%)
Williams 11% (no change)
Swarthmore 11% (up from 9% previously reported)</p>

<p>I especially enjoyed this Amherst jab at Williams…not too competitive, huh?

The College will review approximately 600 more applications than Williams.

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[Papa_Chicken]

<p>up 15%</p>

<p>[UCSB</a> Press Release: "<br>BACKGROUND BRIEFING<br>UC Santa Barbara Receives 55,871 Applications From Prospective Freshmen and Transfer Students "](<a href=“http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=1714]UCSB”>http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=1714)</p>

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The total number of applications received by UCSB for the freshman class is 6,131 more than last year, an increase of 15 percent. All campuses in the UC system experienced increases in undergraduate application numbers. Over all, applications to the UC system increased 9.2 percent. The system saw increases from California residents, out-of-state applicants, and international students.

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[JHS]

<p>In the student newspaper article about the University of Chicago applications increase, the Dean of Admissions there is quoted giving some additional tidbits of information: International applications there increased 23% (mostly from Asia), and Hispanic applications increased 28%. Also, that he believed the 42% increase in EA applications was mainly due to the Harvard/Princeton situation. (This is against the background of a 20% (2,000) overall increase, 1,600 of which showed up at the EA stage.)</p>

[newmassdad]

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College apps jump by record numbers
By Rhema Hokama
Tuesday, January 29th, 2008
Applications to the College rose nearly 20 percent this year, resulting in the largest applicant pool in the history of the University. The College received 12,381 applications for the 2008–2009 year, up from 10,334 applicants last year, said Michael Behnke, vice president and dean of College enrollment at the University.

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<p>With my calculator, this is a 19.81% increase. </p>

<p>Source URL [Chicago</a> Maroon » College apps jump by record numbers](<a href=“http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2008/01/29/college-apps-jump-by-record-numbers/]Chicago”>http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2008/01/29/college-apps-jump-by-record-numbers/)</p>

[macsuile]

<p>What about William & Mary?</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>W&M reported on post 181…up 5%</p>

[Shrinkrap]

<p>And at UC Santa Barbara, a lot of URM’s! Yay!</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall+2008+app_table+10+bar+charts.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall+2008+app_table+10+bar+charts.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall+2008+app_table+5.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2008/fall+2008+app_table+5.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Sorry… my own special interest group… very exciting to think these schools might get past three percent! Maybe my D will be interested and I’ll save some bucks !)</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>count now approaching +4%</p>

<p>this article also points out some issues about how institutions count applications, which may account for some variability in measuring annual changes in applications among colleges & universities, or year to year stats at any particular school that has changed its counting methodology.</p>

<p><a href=“http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2008/1/31/applicationStatisticsExamined[/url]”>http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2008/1/31/applicationStatisticsExamined&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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The Office of Undergraduate Admission’s recent adoption of the Common Application has created a gap of more than 2,000 applications in the University’s final count for the Class of 2012. These “incomplete” applications, which would have contributed to the count last year, are not considered in this year’s tally. </p>

<p>To become an applicant for admission in autumn 2008, students were required to submit both the Common Application and the Stanford supplement. According to Director of Admission Shawn Abbott, incomplete applications are those that do not include either the Common Application portion or the supplement.</p>

<p>“Our agreement with the Common Application Web site necessitates that a student must successfully submit [both parts of the application] before the Common Application will send us a student’s file,” Abbott said in an email to The Daily. “We count only those students [whom] the Common Application sends us as applicants.”</p>

<p>In previous years thousands of students would complete only one part of the application, then be accepted elsewhere or lose interest in Stanford. Since they were considered applicants, such students made for inaccurate application tallies.</p>

<p>That has changed.</p>

<p>“With the Common Application, we now have a far more accurate sense of our true application number,” Abbott said.</p>

<p>That number currently stands at 24,810 — a 3.6 percent increase from last year. Had the University counted the 2,000 incomplete applications, its application numbers would have been boosted by approximately 11.9 percent.</p>

<p>Other universities use different methods to count applications, but those that rely on the Common Application, such as Harvard and Yale, receive counts based solely on completed applications.</p>

<p>Stanford’s 3.6 percent increase in applications from last year pales in comparison to some of its peer institutions, like Harvard, which experienced a 19 percent increase, and Princeton, whose applications rose six percent.

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<p>note that the article’s info on Harvard and Princeton is different than what I’ve seen…18% for Harvard and 12% for Princeton in their latest update.</p>

[rodney]

<p>“this article also points out some issues about how institutions count applications, which may account for some variability in measuring annual changes in applications among colleges & universities, or year to year stats at any particular school that has changed its counting methodology.”</p>

<p>Papa: How much of the meteoric increases do you think are a result of this? For example, if a school eliminated a supplement to common app, could their increased numbers be artificially skewed (by counting just common app submissions without complete apps?)</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>good question rodney-- I honestly had not considered the potential impact of this counting method variable in the context of this thread until I read the Stanford article. In the Stanford example, there is an 8% swing in their numbers going from prior method to current method…a magnitude that is quite substantial. It would take some serious research IMO to try to figure this one out across the universe of schools…but we can certainly speculate on its import in our CC discussions here. For instance, when Chicago goes to the Common App (next year I believe is what I read here on CC)…will the speculated increase in app count from going to the easier to submit Common App be offset by a change in couinting methodology?..well, since I don’t know how Chicago now counts there apps (when are they complete enough to count?)…I can’t say with too much certainty what may happen, but someone who knows how Chicago currently counts their apps might.</p>

<p>I must admit that I did briefly wonder about this count issue back when my S was applying to schools. He sent in a pre-app supplement with non-refundable app fee to an Ivy…he later decided not to appy…the school was very very persistent in querying him on his application intentions and urging him to send in the rest of the Common App…benevolent interpretation: school making sure they gave every chance for applicant to get their materials in on time; cynical interpretation: school wishing to up their app count…I’ll never know.</p>