APPLICATIONS GROWTH Class of 2012

[sly_vt]

<p>Didn’t Yale go down a lot last year? Perhaps the more appropriate comparison would be looking at the 2010 and 2012 numbers for Yale.</p>

[marite]

<p>Not sure, Sly_VT. The context has changed in light of Princeton and Harvard abandoning ED and SCEA respectively this year. The prediction was that both Yale and Stanford would benefit hugely. The prediction has come to pass for Yale, but not Stanford, which has actually experienced a decline. That, rather than the Yale result, is what puzzles me.</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>yes, I recall reading another thread about this…Yale’s EA applicant numbers did go down last year from the prior year, so in looking at the 2 year trend, the increase is much more muted…sorry, don’t have the numbers at hand.</p>

[wjb]

<p>Thanks for posting those numbers, Xiggi. Stanford’s low numbers are indeed surprising. Students who would otherwise have applied to H or P and who opted for the SCEA route decisively chose Yale over Stanford. But a great many of them opted instead for the EA route and applied to some combination of MIT, Georgetown, and U of C. Those numbers for U of C are stunning.</p>

[uml1958]

<p>Marite,</p>

<p>One explanation for the drop in Stanford SCEA is that the elimination of EA/ED at Harvard and Princeton has more impact on the east coast students than the west coast students. The students who would otherwise apply to Harvard and Princeton EA/ED will prefer Yale and other Ivies.</p>

[rainmama]

<p>Another factor for Stanford might be that S is known for outright rejecting a lot of applicants in EA, and strategic applicants might have wanted to avoid that. I read somewhere on CC that only around 10% got deferred to RD, though I haven’t seen documentation of that. I do know of some amazing kids who got rejected, however.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>

I’m puzzled why Yale and Stanford, both SCEA had such different applications results, with Yale shooting up and Stanford going down. Speculation, anyone?

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<p>This was discussed at length in a prior thread. I’ll repeat here what I wrote earlier. The difference between Stanford and Yale might stem from how they report the applications from programs such as Questbridge. Stanford does NOT include them in its SCEA pool but Yale does. Considering the massive number of applications generated this year by advanced notice programs, most of the “jump” can be accounted easily by the hundreds (if not more than one thousand) applications. </p>

<p>By the way, the same logic applies to the schools that joined Questbridge this year, and this includes Chicago. As far as Chicago goes, the impact of being one of the highest ranked school with non-binding EA and a jump in the US News is paying dividends. Prestige and trophy hunters work in strange ways. It will be interesting to see how the admit rate and final yield pans out at Chicago. </p>

<p>PS Papa, I change my tables a couple of times a week and usually wait for some confirmation. Preliminary articles from college newspapers are not exactly models of accuracy, and neither are the offices at several schools. :)</p>

[wjb]

<p>Are you sure Yale includes Questbridge students in its SCEA pool? I ask because on another CC thread, a student who was admitted to Yale through Questbridge is lamenting that the Questbridge Yale admittees are being considered RD admits for purposes of the special website that Yale has for its EA admits. The Questbridge admits do not have access to that website.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>Stanford received 4,551 early applications, admitted 738, and deferred 982. This means that 2,831 were rejected.</p>

[Cap_n_G]

<p>College of Charleston has experienced the same, showing a

20% increase

. The numbers are not all in, but on DEC 12, the Charleston Post & Courier reported:</p>

<p>

The College of Charleston’s efforts to expand academic programs and upgrade facilities are paying off in an increased number of students applying for admission, officials say. </p>

<p>Suzette Stille, director of undergraduate admissions, said the school so far has received about 8,000 applications for about 2,000 spaces in next year’s freshman class. That’s about 1,500, or nearly 20 percent, more than it had received at this time last year, she said.

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[gcnorth]

<p>[NU</a> gets more ED apps, takes slightly fewer students » North by Northwestern](<a href=“http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/01/5906/nu-gets-more-ed-apps-takes-slightly-fewer-students/]NU”>http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/01/5906/nu-gets-more-ed-apps-takes-slightly-fewer-students/)</p>

<p>NU’s early decision applications rose 16.9 percent this year to 1,531, from 1,310 last year, according to the admissions office. </p>

<p>Northwestern took 561 students early for the Class of 2012, six fewer than before, pushing the ED acceptance rate down to about 37 percent.</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>Le Moyne up ~5% thus far: [Getting</a> Into College Gets Tougher - NewsChannel 9 WSYR](<a href=“http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a9610015-b4cb-4af5-9455-c0e98262a3af]Getting”>http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a9610015-b4cb-4af5-9455-c0e98262a3af)</p>

[marite]

<p>Thanks all for the explanations about Stanford. I take the point about Y appealing more to those who would have applied to H or P; I have certainly noted that in the student population where I live. What puzzled me was the <em>drop</em> in Stanford applications.</p>

<p>Y’s applications dropped after the Yale “massacre.” This was a rational response to a decline in the admit rate. Did I miss something similar at Stanford?</p>

[gcnorth]

<p>[Freshman</a> Applications Soar at Northwestern - 54% in Three Years, NewsCenter, Northwestern University](<a href=“http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2008/01/application.html]Freshman”>http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2008/01/application.html)</p>

<p>25000 applications for the class of 2012 (2025 spots)</p>

[JHS]

<p>Those increases are stunning. Northwestern will probably accept about 5,000 students, though (4,500 RD) to fill those 2,025 slots.</p>

[Papa_Chicken]

<p>I’m a little surprised there haven’t been more press releases so far.</p>

<p>University of Dayton…

has received 10,297 applications, a 37 percent increase over last year’s 7,528 applications at this time.

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<p>[College</a> gets record number of applicants - Dayton Business Journal:](<a href=“http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/14/daily11.html]College”>http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/14/daily11.html)</p>

[fencersmother]

<p>Are most of these schools accepting the common application? I just cannot fathom these incredible increases without the Common App. Unbelievable.</p>

[tokenadult]

<p>List of Common App colleges: </p>

<p><a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Members.aspx[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Members.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[ramblin]

<p>Princeton
[The</a> Daily Princetonian - U. receives 20,118 applications for Class of 2012](<a href=“http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2008/01/14/news/19810.shtml]The”>http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2008/01/14/news/19810.shtml)</p>

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The University received an all-time record number of undergraduate applications for the fourth year in a row, with 20,118 students applying for admission to the Class of 2012.</p>

<pre><code>This year’s figure marks a 6 percent increase over the record-breaking 18,942 applicants for the Class of 2011 and constitutes a 22 percent increase in applicant numbers since the Class of 2009.

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<p>[Princeton</a> University - Princeton sets applications record for fourth year in a row](<a href=“Princeton sets applications record for fourth year in a row”>Princeton sets applications record for fourth year in a row)

The University announced in September 2006 that it would end its binding early decision admission process through which students whose first choice was Princeton committed to attend if offered admission. The goal of the move to a single application deadline was to broaden and strengthen the applicant pool, and to provide greater access to students from a wider range of socioeconomic backgrounds who may not have the resources to apply early.</p>

<p>Rapelye credited this year’s number of record applicants to increased recruitment efforts, including a joint national tour with admissions staff from Harvard and the University of Virginia , two other schools that have ended early admission.

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[JHS]

<p>Mightn’t Mr. Rapelye want to take a peek at other institutions’ increases before he claims that Princeton’s is due to its recruitment efforts? What if everyone else comparable increases more?</p>

<p>Someone posted this in the Chicago forum: [Midwest</a> college applications soar :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Education](<a href=“http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/741168,CST-NWS-apply15.article]Midwest”>http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/741168,CST-NWS-apply15.article). It reports that, in addition to Northwestern’s 12% increase, Chicago had an 18% increase overall, and DePaul had a 7% increase, none of them having gone on any travelling dog-and-pony shows with Harvard and UVa.</p>