<p>what were your guys' theses on the dbq and FRQs? the questions didn't really lend themselves to good theses, so mine were pretty poor. and did u guys acknowledge the counterarguments in any of the essays? how much do the graders care about a strong thesis?</p>
<p>stueydue: i would give dbq at least a 7 maybe 8
#3 i would give 5/6
#4 i would give a 4</p>
<p>but thats just my opinion. Hope it helps</p>
<p>I loved the DBQ.... My dad had sung the feel like I'm fixin' to die rag (document B!) to me since I was two years old, so that just made my day!</p>
<p>For the other two, I did 2 and 4, and I hope I didn't screw them up too badly. I don't think that I wrote enough. For 4 I wrote a ton about sharecropping and how it was basically slavery, but I completely forgot about the Black Codes <strong>bangs head on wall</strong>* arghhhhh</p>
<p>^black codes was during slavery, jim crow laws was after slavery.</p>
<p>you dont need to include every info</p>
<p>DBQ---I included basically everything I knew a/b the '60s, including Great Society, Tet Offensive, and I basically said the war sharpened the divides amongst the already split nation (civil rights, youth and hippies, etc.). My estimate is around a 7. </p>
<h1>2---Was extremely general; talked a/b N. Eng. and Chesapeake Bay; mentioned how the Pilgrims and Indians related to each other better (at least the first few years) than Jamestown and Powhatans related to each other in the Chesapeake Bay area, and included info a/b Powhatans and how the Pilgrims survived the first winter; said it was b/c the white settlers' innate natures caused Indians to react a certain way. Did not mention too many specifics; I'm estimating a 5 on this essay.</h1>
<h1>5. Not sure if I had a valid argument; I said that the emergence of voting patterns showed that blacks, immigrants, poor, and women tended to vote Democratic, but that big businessmen tended to vote Republican, and explained exactly why FDR won so many times and the results of his being in power as opposed to Hoover. Again, remained general; my estimate is a 5 or 6.</h1>
<p>Sooo.....thoughts? Does anyone else think that the CB will just give everyone 3's? B/c the DBQ and MC seemed way too easy....</p>
<p>they sound like pretty good estimates</p>
<p>jteh- i wrote that stuff in frq #4 too!
but i mean, i guess you can interpret it different ways cos the industrialization stuff is for the econ. part.
the black codes, KKK is for the other part about race issues or something.</p>
<p>what do you guys think I would get 4 the frq's and dbq? My descriptions of what I put is about 2 pages back-oh and i 4got to mention that I mentioned starving time in the chesapeake 2, and roanoke..</p>
<p>I've been reading here for a while and there seems to be no definite answer to this: what is the "new south"? I searched the term and found that mainly it defines industrialization in the south post-reconstruction. </p>
<p>On my essay, I chose to write about the economic development and race relations. To answer the question I said that the new south WAS achieved by WWI (that was not my thesis, but just a focus for the essay). I know I fully supported my thesis in terms of economic development, but I'm a little shaky on race relations. Besides wikipedia, no where does it say that the "new south" constituted equal race relations. Anyway, I said that "new south" was achieved because of (to put simply) more industry in the south and of all the segregation/discrimination that took place, since most southern people wanted this discrimination.
Thoughts?</p>
<p>um the New South wasn't achieved. New South is the idea of a better, unbiased governmetn that would sort of mimic the north. New South is the better post-Civil War region. This wasn't achieved because even when the Civil War freed the slaves, the blacks were back in the same position after the war due to Jim crow laws and other segregation laws and such. Politics became corrupt and leaders tried hard to put down the status of blacks and try to find ways around the amendments to the Consitution.</p>
<p>It would not be until the 1960's where race relations would be up to date and lot better, during the civil rights era.</p>
<p>The New South was not achieved by World War I, especially with regards to freedman and race relations. The "New South" entailed viewing freedmen as "business partners." You should have focused on Jim Crow laws, sharecropping, and segregation. Key event: Plessy vs. Ferguson (1896).</p>
<p>Economically, it entailed a South that was not dependent on slave labor but was industrialized and modern. This vision was also not achieved by World War I. While the Industrial Revolution resulted in some modernization, the vast majority of Southerners were still farmers, and sharecropping was essentially a form of slavery.</p>
<p>Ok. I have a question for FRQ #4.</p>
<p>I got race relations down pat. But for politics, I put how the government was more corrupt than ever before when the North pulled out of the south during the end of Reconstruction. I said that there were many scandals going on like Credit Mobilier and the South wasn't really up to par with the north after the civil war.</p>
<p>I know that its not completely right, but is it a little bit OK? i did excellent on the race relations part, so do you think that this will help me, even if i did poorly on the politics discussion?</p>
<p>I think a lot of you are being rather harsh with your predictions on essays.
Keep in mind that the scoring guidelines for an 8-9 essay allow for uneven coverage of the topic as well as minor errors. I think anything under a 5 is unrealistic for any essay that provides some analysis of the topic and some focus.</p>
<p>For #4, I wasn't really paying attention to what I was writing about, so I technically chose to write about politics, but ended up talking about NOTHING but the politics of racial stresses, with all the disenfranchisement, Plessy v Ferg, Jim Crow Laws, and the like. Anyone think I might get penalized for this, or would it be a legit interpretation of the subsection?</p>
<p>new south was term coined by ajc after war as sort of ego booster and egoboosting-as well as $ boosting program- basically we are gonna do all north has done and do it just as well and we are gonna become a powerhouse. all about industrialization, which is why i didnt pick it. i didnt have a clue what to say about it otherwise-like politically etc. as far as i know the editorial where the term was coined made no reference to any goals besides industrial/economic, so i couldnt write about the either of the other 2 you had to choose btwn to also write about.
the whole thing led to the iron industry in alabama, the textile mills/industry across the south that were worse factory conditions than anything up north or anywhere, and i guess the sharecropper/tenant faarmer/crop lien system...i guess when mentioning that you could incorporate conditions 4 freedman, which could then lead you to incorporate civil rights, then politics....idk</p>
<p>was it just me or did that DBQ come out of no where, like it seems like they went a lot toward modern history. i know in my class we didnt even get to modern history till the week of the test and we spent maybe 10 min on vietnam. lol good thing i went to the review sessions!</p>
<p>I was actually REALLY happy about the DBQ, lol. I just recently wrote a term paper on Slaughterhouse-Five and the anti-war movement, so it was a relief to see that as the topic.</p>
<p>for me.....DBQ was pretty awesome....talked about containment, kennan, civil rights movement, hippies in Berkeley that were against the war, great society for LBJ and lost economic opportunity</p>
<h1>3- talked about how industrialization affected the north more than the south, for the north talked about railroads, canals, textile industry, turnpikes, technological growth, urban society, wanted higher tariffs for economy, american system, henry clay</h1>
<p>for the south, talked about king cotton supremacy, wanted lower tariffs for 1828, 1832, tariff of abomination, trade with britain and france, rural economy, small technological improvements compared to the north</p>
<h1>4 i did the economical and political aspects of african americans to prove that the "new south" was STILL the antebellum south</h1>
<p>economical- sharecropping, cycle of debt, crop lien system,</p>
<p>political- plessy vs. ferguson, grandfather clause, literacy tests, poll tax, overturn of the civil right acts of 1864 and 1875 </p>
<p>anyone think this is ok for about a 6-7 on each of them?</p>
<p>id say 7 on three and 6 on four</p>