are aliens real!?!?!?!?

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<p>this fascinates me. are aliens real? what is inside of area 51? how much is the government hiding from us? have they been found? </p>

<p>if someone claims they saw a UFO, people say they are crazy. i beg to differ. there are things called miracles or the impossible which are claimed false by the laws of science. But science itself has some flaws.</p>

<p>Science cannot prove the effects of exorcism (im pretty sure its realll) and other miracles.</p>

<p>So.....who knows.....maybe aliens are in area 51 right now? maybe that is where US got the all this high technology in the 70s 80s and 90s. Maybe they are keeping it from the public because chaos will breakout. Religious people who do not believe in it will turn away from the world, panic will break out. </p>

<p>I mean we are just .00000001% of the universe. There HAS to be something out there. We are ONE galaxy out of millions. There has to be something, sort of an advanced alien civilization. But yes, so obviously you got my opinion. I am pretty sure one day, maybe not in our lifetimes, but in our childrens', we will find an advanced civilization that will change the phase of this world. </p>

<p>What is your opinion on this?</p>

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<p>I wonder if aliens have their own CC...</p>

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<p>I am not that close-minded as to deny the exsistance of life forms that differ from our own.</p>

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<p>^^ I wonder if they are on CC right now! What if they are the creatures that make the SATs!!!</p>

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<p>Oh my God. I just realized. The organization that makes the SATs is called ETS. I know what it stands for, which is definately not Education Testing Service.
E- Extra
T-Terrestrial
S-System</p>

<p>Run for the hills, so high schooler is safe!</p>

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<p>I do believe there is life besides here, but I don't believe that they could /come/ here, they would need to be able to live for thousands of years, even if they were travelling at almost-light-speed, which would kill us. Although, time does slow down... I don't know. But I don't think they'd be able to come here.</p>

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<p>Yes, they're real.</p>

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<p>this fascinates me. are aliens real? what is inside of area 51? how much is the government hiding from us? have they been found?</p>

<p>Yes. A magic dragon. Narnia. Sure, why not!</p>

<p>*if someone claims they saw a UFO, people say they are crazy.
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An unidentified flying object? If it's large and no-one else notices it, then they might have some vision problems.
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i beg to differ. there are things called miracles or the impossible which are claimed false by the laws of science. *</p>

<p>Or we could always posit the far superior and more plausible explanations without having to resort to little green hyperintelligent spacefaring extraterrestrial civilizations. Onus is on you, anyway, to demonstrate their existence.</p>

<p>Scientific laws describe relationships; they don't exclude things, they are contingent upon our observations -- they deal w/ synthetic propositions, and don't touch up upon analytical impossibilities.</p>

<p>But science itself has some flaws.</p>

<p>Oh yes, the fallibility of our senses, the distinctions between noumena and phenomena, etc., but we guard against the former through repeatable experiments and against the latter we don't bother, as science is all about phenomena anyway.</p>

<p>Science cannot prove the effects of exorcism (im pretty sure its realll) and other miracles.</p>

<p>Science cannot prove anything -- proof and disproof are functions of things like mathematics and are purely a priori and analytic. Science can catalog our observations and form the best working model that fits said observations. If we observe little green men and dragons and fairies and demons and whatnot, then "science" will have come into play.</p>

<p>So.....who knows.....maybe aliens are in area 51 right now? </p>

<p>And maybe GWB is really the last son of krypton!!!11!1one</p>

<p>*maybe that is where US got the all this high technology in the 70s 80s and 90s.
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No, it was definitely the young GWB's adoptive father that utilized the secret knowledge encoded within the spaceship by Jor-El, thus giving us access to xbox 360s and PS3s.</p>

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Maybe they are keeping it from the public because chaos will breakout.* </p>

<p>Maybe they themselves are aliens and have already infiltrated the political spheres! :o</p>

<p>Religious people who do not believe in it will turn away from the world, panic will break out.</p>

<p>Wha?
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I mean we are just .00000001% of the universe. *</p>

<p>Well.. close enough I suppose. You got the small number thing going, but your off on a couple of orders of magnitude.</p>

<p>*There HAS to be something out there. *</p>

<p>No, there MIGHT be something out there. Nothing HAS to be.</p>

<p>*We are ONE galaxy out of millions.
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Eh, a little off again, and galaxies are a tad large in scale to describe us...
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<p>There has to be something, sort of an advanced alien civilization.* </p>

<p>And dragons and pixies and teapots oh my!</p>

<p>But yes, so obviously you got my opinion. I am pretty sure one day, maybe not in our lifetimes, but in our childrens', we will find an advanced civilization that will change the phase of this world.</p>

<p>Relativity limits our speed of travel -- any goldilocks planets (much less those harboring :advanced civilizations") would have to be improbably close for us to find them.</p>

<p>What is your opinion on this?</p>

<p>BS mostly and baseless speculation. The drake equation and conservative estimates might have saved you, but you seem not to have mentioned it (directly).</p>

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<p>Let's see. There are 100,000,000,000 other galaxies in the visible universe. Ours has at least one living planet. Ergo, I can mathematically conclude that the odds are that we are no more than 0.00000000001% of all the life that exists in the universe.</p>

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<p>HAHAHAHA, yesterday, some friends and I were on the beach. Some strange lady approaches us with credentials from one of those tabloid newspapers. She tells us that there has been a recent UFO sighting in the area, and interviewed us as to whether or not aliens existed.</p>

<p>My friend responded, saying that she saw ET and that completely ruined it for her.
I gave my response using my best friends name. I just found out that the interview is being printed with a picture next week...</p>

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<p>Let's see. There are 100,000,000,000 other galaxies in the visible universe. Ours has at least one living planet. Ergo, I can mathematically conclude that the odds are that we are no more than 0.00000000001% of all the life that exists in the universe.</p>

<p>Non-sequitor. Just because our galaxy harbors a planet with intelligent life that does not mean that other galaxies do as well, or that other galaxies have goldilocks zones at all.</p>

<p>It's akin to saying: There are 1 million other cardboard boxes on earth. The one sitting in front of me has a copy of also sprach zarathustra and a live tabby cat. Ergo, I can mathematically conclude that the odds of my box's contents to be specific to my box alone are no more than 1 to 1 million against.</p>

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<p>IMO, complex life is unique to a very very very small percentage of planets (possibly even only our own), while simple life is prevalent throughout the universe.</p>

<p>Earth is an anomaly. There are so many requirements (ideal location, core, formation, etc.) that the presence of another earth-like planet harboring complex, sentient life is close to none.</p>

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<p>Wait what? Exorcisms are real?</p>

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<p>Um duh.... why do you think it's such a political issue? I mean... when aliens start to take your job, you'll believe in them! :) j/k</p>

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<p>I am an alien.</p>

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<p>@ Moodrets, sure, the general consensus is that the probability of life arising is extremely low in any set of circumstances, but, mathematically, if our galaxy is typical (and, generally speaking, it is), and it has ≥1 planet with life, one can assume that another given galaxy has life (not necessarily carbon-based). </p>

<p>Also, someone put the tabby and Nietzche book in the box. That is not something left up to happenstance and probability. The emergence of life, however, is.</p>

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<p>Well, the tabby was attracted to the catnip which happened to grow in the box, and old Friedrich was just strolling by and happened to drop it in. See, more randomness.</p>

<p>And we cannot accurately judge the probability of abiogenesis, simply because we are here after the fact, and have not yet discovered any one else like us. The odds of it occuring can be any number really.</p>

<p>To use another example, say we have a billion firing squads, and a billion prisoners set before them. One prisoner survives in that he happens to dodge every single bullet fired, and the rest of them die. That one prisoner goes on to writes a memoir and proclaims that, since he lived, and all the other sets were similar to his, then the other prisoners are all still alive.</p>

<p>What's the problem with his reasoning? Obviously that he is writing this post-factum, and that the other prisoners are not alive to write the same. Similarly, we may have been the first group to evolve highly enough to ponder such things, simply because no other groups had reached that stage yet (assuming there even are other groups)</p>

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<p>Yes. They're real. And if anything ever WAS inside Area 51 (which I believe there was), it's not there now.</p>

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<p>Of course they're real. I know someone who got face-hugged by one, and the Alien decimated his entire ship. Luckily, we hired a mercenary Predator to hunt down and kill it.</p>

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<p>ET phone home!</p>