<p>Can someone answer my question? Why do they want racial integration (diversity)?</p>
<p>^Asked and answered. Because the student body wants it.</p>
<p>How do they know that? Id be perfectly fine with a class of just Asian people…</p>
<p>^Most students aren’t “perfectly fine” with a class of just one nationality, ethnicity, or race. And yes, colleges get feedback on class composition. They also sometimes conduct formal Focus Groups asking about things like admission factors.</p>
<p>So basically, they are racist…since they don’t allow the most qualified applicants entrance. They allow those who are the “best” in their race/nationality.</p>
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<p>I would not be surprised if more students were “perfectly fine” with a class of just one nationality, ethnicity, or race if it is their own nationality, ethnicity, or race, than if it is some other nationality, ethnicity, or race.</p>
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<p>That is purly an assumption. In my opinion, colleges are looking to be “racial diverse” so they’re not considered racist. But as a result, they’re being racist by selecting certain people based solely on skin color.</p>
<p>^exactly, but the first way isn’t really being racist: it’s being fair.</p>
<p>I do not think, with a very few exceptions, that colleges and universities are racist, they are trying to confront a real dilemma to which there is no obvious solution. In a an ideal world in a multi-racial society college student bodies would largely reflect the percentages that each race makes up of the entire population. At the same time the same standards for admission would be applied to each student no matter what thier race is. The dilemma is that for reasons that are not entirely clear there is a racial group, Asians, that on average, significantly outperforms all other racial groups on traditional measures of academic ability such as high school grades and scores on standardized tests.</p>
<p>For colleges, particularly the most highly selective and sought after ones, they can adhere to the principle that admissions will be solely based on High school GPA and SAT scores but will end up with a racial group that makes up about 4% of the general population consisting of 50% of their student body while another racial group that is 12% of the population will barely account for 1% of their students. </p>
<p>If the colleges decide that a more diverse and racially balanced student body is their primary objective, the only way to achieve that is to deviate from admissions based on grades and SAT scores only and select more students from one group and less from the other on the basis of race or some proxy for race.</p>
<p>Neither of the above scenarios is something that the colleges want to see happen and the challenge is to find a solution that meets the institutional needs of the college while being as fair as possible to applicants. In the case of publicly owned universities such as in California*it came down to a political decision with the voters approving proposition 209 effectively abolishing Affirmative Action and opting for the policy of admissions based on grades and test scores. A private college though has to deal with this problem largely on its own without violating Federal civil rights laws.</p>
<p>*There is some question as to whether or not the University of California (UC) and the California State University (CSU) campuses are really publicly owned or if they already, or will in the near future, cease to be truly public institutions. With the dramatic cutbacks in state support and the huge tuition increases at UC and CSU schools in recent years, which is a trend that is likely to continue, these schools are, or soon will be, receiving more revenues from student tuition payments than they receive in subsidies from the state.</p>
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<p>No, it’s based on feedback from students, replete on many forums about not only the diversity they seek on college campuses, but the variety they feel is a valuable and unique aspect of a college education versus often their too homogeneous origins, backgrounds, neighborhoods, and schools. You can speculate all you want to, and you will, I’m sure, to avoid doing the research.</p>
<p>Lots of students avoid their own state flagships for the very reason that they don’t want to see replicated in their undergraduate classes the same kind of population they already encounter in their state. They want other States, other regions, and a wider sampling of all ethnicities and races. Deal with it. :)</p>
<p>Put yourselves in the shoes of the Asian students. I think they want to be on a level playing field with the hispanics and african americans.</p>
<p>“the variety they feel is a valuable and unique aspect of a college education versus often their too homogeneous origins, backgrounds, neighborhoods, and schools.”</p>
<p>Do you have anything to support this?</p>
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<p>Or European Americans, which are a much larger group that is widely believed to get affirmative action over Asian Americans. If that is actually the case, it is especially hard to justify (as opposed to affirmative action for African Americans or Latino Americans) if one believes that affirmative action’s goal is to compensate for past and/or present racial discrimination.</p>
<p>DHS2012, u are 100% right.
they just dont want asian people to take the best jobs and dont want america to become asia.
what can you say, asian parents are very strict. most of them</p>
<p>this is only my opinion</p>
<p>in my opinion, i think private colleges (in this respect) have the right to do what they’re doing and that’s fine with me. when it comes to public universities… eh, it’s a bit more shaky for me</p>
<p>i’m asian and i wouldn’t want to go to a school that’s almost half asian… just saying</p>
<p>and really, i don’t think it’s a matter of “take into account how asians feel” but really what’s best for the school and no one but the schools themselves decide that (private schools)</p>
<p>^O rite so now an education has become for colleges’ benefit and not for students. Communism</p>
<p>The college Asian myth of being discriminated in college acceptance is up there with, “I’m so beautiful I can not get a date”. Both refuse to accept the reason for the rejection, which has little to do w/race or beauty. But hey if you need a reason to give a Tiger Mom for a school rejecting you its the perfect card to play, and Mom will want to believe it.</p>
<p>Epiphany, could that “feedback” be coming from kids who are a race other than Asian or white and thus receive a hands up in the addmissions game? The whole affirmative action deal really really ticks me off. It should be based upon income…</p>
<p>It must be so hurtful for Asian-American kids to read this thread. Schools should look at each applicant as an individual, not as a member of an ethnic group. Each person is unique. Some colleges say they have need-blind admissions, they should have race-blind admissions too.</p>
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<p>An applicant DOES have the option of not marking the boxes with the ethnic questions.</p>