<p>one professor for every 20-40 students is a lot better than one grad student for every 100-300 students.</p>
<p>people don’t realize that at real colleges, you aren’t paying for your education, you’re paying for the university’s research and you get a piece of paper in return. Educational expenses are minute.</p>
<p>ratemyprofessor if u want a good education at a cc !</p>
<p>i went to cc throughout my highschool years and hate it !</p>
<p>but when i actually go to cc, i use ratemyprofessor and end up with AMAZING professors who challenge u and actually care abt the classes
i still have some boring teachers though</p>
<p>but overall it’s better than i thought. the only thing missing is a real actual undergrad experience…go to class talk to classmates but never see them outside of class context…</p>
<p>cc, besides getting me priority admissions placement (I Forget how you say it!) has been an incredibly miserable year-but I’m not from in state and all my friends are from the east coast so that could be why? :-</p>
<p>As someone who spent many years at a community college, I thought I should contribute to this discussion. First, let me say that I am in my last semester of CC and graduating in June. I have also worked as a tutor at a CC here in San Diego. Many of my professors had Phd’s and they were very good. My history teacher had a masters from Columbia, my business law teacher had a law degree from a decent law school here in San Diego. And, my political science professor had a Phd from LSU. They were all brilliant. When I went to the UCSD orientation for transfer students, they told all of us that their transfer students do just as well as their students who started at UCSD as freshman. Also, that their CC transfer students were “well prepared” for UC academics. </p>
<p>I think that speaks volumes in itself. But, there are some big downsides to community college. For one, some of the students at community college can really bother you. I’ve been in classes with people who should never even have been accepted into the college. I’ve literally sat next to a guy in one of my classes who had just been released from prison for killing someone. And, there has been a few occasions where moms bring their kids to class. Overall, you just have a very wide range of people at a community college because everyone is accepted into the school. Anyone can go. That’s not to give you the impression that their aren’t good students there because there certainly are. Some people are highly motivated and intelligent and they benefit from the schools services and faculty. Others are weeded out. But anyone in CC that ends up transferring to UC, you can rest assure that they are well prepared, intelligent, and motivated people.</p>
<p>I should also add that community college gave me the chance and opportunity to go to UCSD. There is no way I would have been able to get into UCSD out of high school, and now I will be starting UCSD in september. I dropped out of high school my Jr. year and got a GED. THAT’S what community college has done for me. It gave me real opportunity and the education to move forward. I consider myself lucky and proud that I went through the CC experience. And, like I said earlier, some people benefit from the CC services and faculty, others are weeded out. Like anything in life, the choice is yours. : )</p>
<p>Anyone who looks down at CC doesn’t understand the real world. I go to CC in san diego and the amount of UCSD and USD students who take classes there is truly staggering. Many of them are kind of kicking themselves for overpaying for their general education.</p>
<p>There’s also a huge amount of students @ CC who have graduated with GOOD degrees (AKA not a humanities degree) from GOOD schools (ucsd/berkeley) and they are back taking classes because the job market sucks and they want to get into nursing (very popular response I get when I ask people what they are studying)</p>
<p>lol. Good degrees aka not humanities degrees? Talk about sweeping generalizations. You expect people to just breeze through your post and believe whatever assumptions you’ve made about the concept of good and not-good degrees. lol. As if you have some privileged information of the makeup of, or what constitutes, a good degree, and a bad one. As if everyone should know instantly what you are talking about, as if its common knowledge that this person knows which degrees are good vs. bad. lol It’s as though you’ve become completely consumed by another version of yourself, one who’s unknowing self-derision comes as second nature. It’s hilarious.</p>
<p>as if lol as if lol as if lol</p>
<p>For the record, I’m an english major. Also for the record, humanities degrees are NOT particularly career oriented. Also for the record, ucsd and berkeley are generally considered very good schools.</p>
<p>Finally, you are a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>op:
</p>
<p>at the time that i dropped out of high school, i had something like a 1.8 gpa. now nearing the end of my first transfer year, despite my being a low-life loser with inferior academic abilities, i’ve still somehow managed a 3.7 (UW!!!) at UCLA. i must be some sort of savant, huh…</p>
<p>wow good job completely misinterpreting what he was trying to say</p>
<p>mantis, the only concrete findings produced in observation of one’s gpa are those related to effort. if you’ve got a high gpa, you obviously tried for it, but trying doesn’t make you a genius. in the same fashion, a low gpa doesn’t make you an idiot. and though you and i might understand that, there are definitely people out there who don’t.</p>
<p>If you go to a CC and work hard, you can easily get into the college you want to transfer to. </p>
<p>In my CC, everybody wants to be a nurse or are undecided, I want major in business, so the odds of me getting into a University as a business major from the CC im currently in are good. </p>
<p>Is my logic faulty?</p>
<p>I would agree with everything you just said. </p>
<p>I just think that the OP was simply commenting on the stigma that those who go to junior college out of high school aren’t academically competitive enough to go to a four year. The post you made characterized his post as looking down upon people like you, which I don’t think he was doing at all. friends?!</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>i chuckled at that.
ha!</p>
<p>oh, and talebi, yes, your logic is faulty. </p>
<p>as a business major (THE most popular in most colleges… or econ / bus/econ, etc), it’s not just the aspiring nurses and undecideds in your CC that you’re competing against… it’s rather ALL applicants for those spots. </p>
<p>for example</p>
<p>let’s say there are 2,000 spots in all of UC’s business majors.
from your CC, 20 people are applying to those business majors, and you’re one of them.
however, from greater california, there are 5,000 people applying to those business majors.</p>
<p>you’re competing against all 5,019 of those people - not just 19 of them - for one of the 2,000 available spots. </p>
<p>ya dig?</p>
<p>@mantis… </p>
<p>your interpretation doesn’t reflect the inference he made. </p>
<p>he said that it is because of his GPA being 3.7 at the time he graduated from high school that he shouldn’t be considered one of the ‘low-life losers’ that can’t have gone to a four year straight away… which is the same as him saying that GPA is what qualifies or disqualifies one as a low-life loser with diminished mental faculties, and i don’t dig that. ya dig?</p>
<p>ugh now i’m gonna have to spend even more time analyzing that phrase in his post</p>
<p>YES, if he is saying that these people are “low-life loser[s] with inferior academic ability” then you’d be right. BUTTTTTTT I think that he’s simply paraphrasing what those four-year dickholes at his school are assuming about those who go to junior college. So he was simply saying that he wasn’t the “low-life loser with inferior academic ability” that his high school mates would have characterized him as. YES NAILED IT</p>
<p>I agree with Mantis’ interpretation.</p>
<p>based on the context, i just think he forgot to add the word ‘compared’ (to the four year kids…)</p>
<p>if, like you said (and like he wrote), he really meant that it didn’t make him one such loser in the eyes of the four year kids, then i just don’t really understand why that needed to be said. </p>
<p>whatever, though. let’s not bicker. this is getting too nerdy, even for me.</p>
<p>“wow good job completely misinterpreting”</p>
<p>-nameless</p>
<p>How can you misinterpret an interpretation? Don’t we all read the text, and respond accordingly with an interpretation that is never truly miss-interpretable? The very word misinterpretation is a claim making mechanism that tells people there must be a “right” interpretation, one that I lack and someone else does not. Who’s to say you didn’t misinterpret my post, according to your logic? Who’s to say you’re not performing the act of misinterpretation as we speak?</p>
<p>"your interpretation doesn’t reflect the inference he made. "</p>
<p>-pinkerfloyd or whatever his name is</p>
<p>lol. As if inference is some static, intrinsic purity, and without bias.</p>
<p>“Is my logic faulty?”</p>
<p>lol. The fact that you assume logic goes a certain way, and that someone else can revise it to reach some higher truth, necessarily makes your logic faulty.</p>
<p>Alright you got me.</p>
<p>Instead of using the word “misinterpret” I should have used something different. I’ll never do it again.</p>
<p>…as if…lol…as if…lol</p>