<p>Trinity and Santa Clara (1/2 West Region) are better schools than FSU/Tennessee (101 National)</p>
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Lame and generally incorrect generalizations, it would seem.</p>
<p>Here are some facts and figures about Loyola University Maryland, the #3 Regional University (North) and its close neighbor, Johns Hopkins University, the #13 National University. Decide for yourself if the following differences would be significant to you. </p>
<p>…Loyola…JHU
Avg. HS GPA …3.5…3.7
top 10% of HS …34%…86%
Average SATs…597/605…684/715
Classes < 20…50%…68%
Full-time Faculty…62%…94%
% of faculty w/PhD…83%…91%
4yr graduation …76%…84%
Endowment …$165.9M…$2.59B</p>
<p>Most Popular Majors at Loyola:
Business/Commerce (35%)
Speech Communications/Rhetoric 13%)
Biology (8%)
Graduates Offered Full-Time Employment Within 6 Months: 77%
Graduates Pursuing Advanced Study Directly: (unknown)
Notable Loyola people:
[List</a> of Loyola College in Maryland people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Loyola_University_Maryland_people]List”>List of Loyola University Maryland people - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Most Popular Majors at JHU:
Bioengineering/Biomedical Engineering (9%)
International Relations (7%)
Chemical Engineering (5%)
Neuroscience (5%)
Political Science (4%)
Graduates Offered Full-Time Employment Within 6 Months: 41%
Graduates Pursuing Advanced Study Directly: 37%
Notable JHU people:
[List</a> of Johns Hopkins University people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Johns_Hopkins_University_people]List”>List of Johns Hopkins University people - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Here are some facts and figures about the University of Scranton, the US News #8 Regional University (North) and the University of Pennsylvania, the #5 National University (tied with 4 others). Again, decide for yourself if the differences would be relevant/significant to you.</p>
<p>…Scranton…Penn
Avg. HS GPA …3.3…3.9
top 10% of HS …26%…96%
Average SATs…558/571…703/727
Classes < 20…50%…72%
Full-time Faculty…52%…64%
% of faculty w/PhD…82%…100%
4yr graduation …70%…88%
Endowment …$131.9M…$6.58B</p>
<p>Most Popular Majors at Scranton:
Biology (9%)
Speech Communications/Rhetoric (8%)
Marketing (7%)
Nursing (6%)
Education (5%)
Graduates Offered Full-Time Employment Within 6 Months: (unknown)
Graduates Pursuing Advanced Study Directly: (unknown)
Notable Scranton people:
[University</a> of Scranton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“University of Scranton - Wikipedia”>University of Scranton - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Most Popular Majors at Penn:
Finance (14%)
Economics (6%)
History (5%)
Political Science (5%)
Nursing (5%)
Graduates Offered Full-Time Employment Within 6 Months: 60%
Graduates Pursuing Advanced Study Directly: 20%
Notable Penn people:
[List</a> of University of Pennsylvania people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Pennsylvania_people]List”>List of University of Pennsylvania people - Wikipedia)</p>
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<p>Of course, you very helpfully cut out the following statement I made:</p>
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I would like to add that it probably works if you give or take 20 rankings as well.</p>
<p>When this comparison was made:
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<p>You’re comparing national universities that are ranked #101 (incidentally, all three schools are tied for #101) with regional universities that are ranked #8 and #3, and using that as evidence that I am wrong. Of course, that is not what I actually said. That’s almost a 100 rank difference. I would not disagree that a top-ranked regional university is better than a rank 100 national university. But if there’s a 20 rank difference between a national and regional university, the national university will generally be stronger (but again, there are exceptions).</p>
<p>I’d say schools like Trinity/Villanova/Santa Clara are at a level equal to 45+ ranked national universities</p>
<p>I think regional universities are absolute rip-offs and borderline for-profit institutions. Most of the time they are more expensive than the national university down the street. They have much smaller endowments which becomes a problem when offering merit scholarships; often these scholarships will go to richer students with better academic records, rather than students who are nearly as eligible and actually need the aid.</p>
<p>“I think regional universities are absolute rip-offs and borderline for-profit institutions. Most of the time they are more expensive than the national university down the street. They have much smaller endowments which becomes a problem when offering merit scholarships; often these scholarships will go to richer students with better academic records, rather than students who are nearly as eligible and actually need the aid.”</p>
<p>That is an ignorant statement especially considering Trinity (1 bil) and Santa Clara (700 mil) have massive endowments for their size. (and there are a lot of public regional schools)</p>
<p>Regarding Merit scholarships: They are supposed to give the Merit scholarships to the people with higher stats (hence merit). Every university does this from Harvard to James Madison</p>
<p>the most important factors at least to me is</p>
<p>% student retention…the higher the better
% students living on campus …the higher the better
smaller class sizes, without teaching assistants teaching you.
you are close to an airport (with in 25 minutes drive)</p>
<p>hospital close by not a world class hospital per say just a place that is there if you need it</p>
<p>modern dorms, single rooms available with air conditioning</p>
<p>the rest is all the same! a cell biology class will be hard at a regional school or an ivy</p>
<p>a college with a happy student body in a smaller city/large town with it’s campus set apart from every thing else! with the above listed qualities would make for the best college experience in my humble opinion!</p>
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<p>Santa Clara’s endowment per student is about $81M, which is not especially large. Trinity’s EPS is much larger, at about $361M. Trinity appears to be one of the only “regional” universities with an endowment per student of more than $200K.</p>
<p>Trinity is the USNWR #1 Regional University (West). By comparison, the #1 National University (Harvard) has an endowment per student of about $1.5B.</p>
<p>[List</a> of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment]List”>List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Compared to the top 10 Regional universities (for any region), the top 10 National universities generally are much wealthier institutions (by total endowment or by endowment per student). Typically, they are much more selective. The top 10 National universities generally have smaller average class sizes, higher 4-year graduation rates, and more generous financial aid. They typically have better-paid faculty, a higher percentage of full-time faculty, and a higher percentage of faculty who hold PhDs. They generally invest more money in research. Their faculty typically have higher research output (as measured by citation studies and as reflected in the NRC/Chronicle graduate program assessments) and win more significant awards (Nobels, etc.) The top 10 national universities show up in top 10 or top 20 lists of PhDs produced per capita; the top 10 regional universities don’t. </p>
<p>Should any of these differences matter to you? Maybe, maybe not. The regional universities typically have a somewhat different mission focus than the national universities do (with more emphasis on pre-professional training, as reflected in the usual percentage of business, communications, and nursing majors). The top-ranked regional universities often are urban, Roman Catholic schools. These factors may make them more desirable choices for some good students.</p>
<p>drake is a great choice!</p>